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01-13-2009 01:21 AM  9 years agoPost 1
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01-13-2009 01:58 AM  9 years agoPost 2
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Brent,

Your frustration with this industry is understandable given the work and finances you have invested in it. But your public slanderous, and one sided comments are almost humorous, given the fact that they are all based on your paranoid speculations which are not accurate.

This will be my last post concerning this.

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01-13-2009 02:00 AM  9 years agoPost 3
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There are always two sides of every story, and while i now know your side. I also know Derek's side because i was working closely with him during this time and even consulted him on this very "contract" you lost, yes LOST, not stolen from you.

During this time Derek and i were designing a new light 3axis camera mount. In one of our conversations we talked about a contract job he did through Accent(you) and how the shoot went great and the clients like the end result. HOWEVER DID NOT like the experience with Accent(you). Because of this experience, and knowing how long the new proposed contract was to last they had approached him(Derek) directly about working with them.

Derek and i talked about this for a little while and my advice was that since the company was approaching him about working directly with Derek and because of the experience they had with Accent, that i would consider taking the job but first make sure that no legal ramifications would be placed on you(Derek).

We talked a little more about the situation but that pretty much summed it up.

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01-13-2009 02:01 AM  9 years agoPost 4
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If I were you I would want to talk about it either.

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01-13-2009 02:19 AM  9 years agoPost 5
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d-bledsoe it's cool. Capitalism being what it is, that is a perfectly valid piece of fairly impartial advice. Although in this case it simply isn't that simple. Our two business entities were interwoven at this point, and we simply were not operating as two separate companies.

This means that Derek had an ethical choice to make.

We were not 2 separate companies bidding on the same contract. If that was the case I would have commended him on a job well done, I would have accepted my loss, and it would have only positively motivated me to push my self that much harder.

Lets not forget he didn't even offer up any type off commission to the people that put him in this position of profit in the first place.

Janir and I were taken advantage of.

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01-13-2009 02:26 AM  9 years agoPost 6
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Derek did not work with you to steal your work. a opportunity was presented to himself because X company did not for what ever reason like working with Accent/You. They approached Derek. Now Derek Did have a decision to make.

A) He could turn down the work in favor of keep doing contract work through you and hope that X company doesn't drop Accents work, thus resulting in him not working.

or

B) He could accept X companies offer possibly facing hate and out lash from Accent/You.

From what i understand nothing was signed and on contract yet between Accent/You and X company, which means X company could have dropped you at any point going for another operator because of there dis-satisfaction with Accent/you. It just so happens that Derek was there and they liked working with him.

And as to him putting up any commission, well they/you aren't employed by derek thus no commission would be required. Not his fault X company wasn't happy to begin with. I know i sound harsh, but i have been working in the film/TV industry long enough to know this first hand.

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01-13-2009 02:40 AM  9 years agoPost 7
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Looks like someone should have had a no compete contract or something to that effect.
It would be a whole different story if the tables were turned in this story.

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01-13-2009 02:42 AM  9 years agoPost 8
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It's like a schoolyard.

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01-13-2009 02:58 AM  9 years agoPost 9
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d-bledsoe

This isn't a TV/film industry thing It's an every industry thing. I can not nor do I believe many will agree with you on this matter.

Your entire perspective is based on trusting that they without aid pursued Derek after finding Dissatisfaction with Ascent.

please reference the final product delivered to Orion Multimedia by Ascent Imagery ---> http://gallery.me.com/ascentimagery#100237
see any reason for dissatisfaction?

This was not the case. Congruencies have since been found. I now know that this wasn't the first Ascent client Derek had access to where he intentionally made efforts to undermine our relationship.

The man stole the client.

When you are a part of an organization you're "Apart" of it you can't just go behind the people that have placed their trust in you and Cheat them.

Have you every heard "the whole is worth more than its parts" That applies to organizations.

Derek wouldn't of even known any of these people. The guy got a shortcut in life by screwing over people.

If he was so in the right why did he have to call you and ask for advice? Because he was feeling the pain of greed and needed to hear someone tell him it was ok.

You either in my opinion gave him poorly informed terrible advice that you now feel like defending or your are just a member of the growing part of society that endorses and praises people for these types of injustice.

Either way I don't agree

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01-13-2009 03:02 AM  9 years agoPost 10
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You either in my opinion gave him poorly informed terrible advice that you now feel like defending or your are just a member of the growing part of society that endorses and praises people for these types of injustice.
Guess i am in the latter category.

And from what i can remember it wasn't the product X company had a problem with, it was the customer experience.

Derek Bledsoe

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01-13-2009 03:07 AM  9 years agoPost 11
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Derek,

I'm not out for blood.

you're making money and I think that's great, that's all I every wanted for you.

But you need to do the right thing here, and I shouldn't need to tell you what that is at this point.

If you would have answered my phone calls this post might have never been made.

the ball is in you court.

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01-13-2009 03:13 AM  9 years agoPost 12
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well this keeps getting better and better

So you and Janir both Completely Screwed Me!!!

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01-13-2009 03:15 AM  9 years agoPost 13
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Brent,

Discussing this in a public forum is ridiculous and accomplishes nothing but satisfying vindiction.

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01-13-2009 03:24 AM  9 years agoPost 14
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So you and Janir both Completely Screwed Me!!!
Perhaps, or it has something to do with why company X choose not to work with you. I don't blame company X, Derek or Janir for there actions and your actions/reactions further prove why orin would make the decision that they made.

It really sucks that this happened to you and i can see how you can feel like everyone is out to screw you. Perhaps in stead of placing blame, why not look into your self and see why the people around you are as you put it "screwing" you. Your answer may be surprising

Derek Bledsoe

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01-13-2009 03:47 AM  9 years agoPost 15
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d-bledsoe

I just looked, and to my surprise I have "target" written on my forehead.

Everyone should go check out http://www.gomaximo.net I think these guys are going to be the next big thing.

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01-13-2009 03:53 AM  9 years agoPost 16
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Tabb did you know you had your wakeboarding video on their Maximo website?

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01-13-2009 03:55 AM  9 years agoPost 17
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http://www.gomaximo.net/radar_lake.mov

why isn't this link working all of the sudden

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01-13-2009 04:01 AM  9 years agoPost 18
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I hate to say it, whether this did or did not happen, will happen in every type of business that operates this way. Partners, etc. Everything must be legal on paper, chances are if you had drawn up a no compete clause Derek wouldn't have flown for you anyway.

Back in 94 I got rid of an employee. After 2 years of 'hard luck' and bankruptcy many of my original customers stopped by and asked if I was doing this work again (Sign Shop). It seems he had taken all of my contact information and every graphic file from my computer, then contacted my customers, told them I had gone out of business and that I had turned everything over to him... Put me out about 60k per year. Same stuff, different day...

I'm not here to judge, only to make a point that it can happen anywhere, anytime, in any business.

It took me several weeks to figure out that nothing that had already happened would change, focus on your business if you'd like it to succeed. Make a rebound, I wish you the best of luck!

Troy

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01-13-2009 04:05 AM  9 years agoPost 19
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Thanks for the kind words and good advice.

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01-13-2009 04:06 AM  9 years agoPost 20
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Tabb's land rover video isn't working either????

http://www.gomaximo.net/land_rover.mov

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