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01-14-2009 12:51 AM  9 years agoPost 21
TERollins

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P.S. Gassers don't drip oil like nitros..
Yes..... I know! I keep the heli in the house so I just want to keep the wife happy!
I am sure you know, but be vigilant with maintenance. After every flight session go over the drive train with your tools and check it all over....leave nothing to chance.
That's one thing I got into a habit of doing with all my heli's or any of my R/C's in general. I don't want to risk damaging my heli or jeopardize the safety of others when flying my heli because of piss poor maintenance!

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01-14-2009 06:30 PM  9 years agoPost 22
Asid

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Hi

I see flyers that don't even wipe the oil, grass or mud from there helis from one week to the next. Then they wonder why things fail???????

That can't be safe!

Regards

If it ain't broke then break it.

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01-15-2009 03:05 AM  9 years agoPost 23
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I got my case of Amsoil saber pro 100:1 mix today,i'm going to run my gasser at around 70:1 after break in. The man at DA says if you run there motors at 80:1 that it will gum up the plug and not run as good. I know this is a heli and needs a little more oil so thats why i think i'm going 70:1 when i get it up and running i will let you know how it goes. If it blows i will buy another motor,hay i might just order another motor to have on hand. I got a bat heli and i think a lot of guys are missingout on a good well crafted heli,and there instock. Call Irwin i can promise you will not find a beter heli for the money.And there service have sold me on all my helis
Tax tme i'm going to get another bat pro or a quick 50 nirippoff fuel. I might even ge a electric quick i'm going to let
irwin tells me what i need.

If any of you are thiking about a gas heli atleast give these guys a chance.

Hobbies & Helis International
201 S 3rd St & Rt 309 N
Coopersburg PA 18036
United States
Tel:610-282-4811
Fax:610-282-4816
or QWW.com

I'm not a rep i'm just a very satisfid customer,and i would like to see more at te fields

Thanks gain Irwin'Jon keep up the great work.

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01-15-2009 03:24 AM  9 years agoPost 24
Excalibur

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I got my case of Amsoil saber pro 100:1 mix today,i'm going to run my gasser at around 70:1 after break in.
After years of reading this forum and working with the Zenoah series of engines, I don't think I know of anyone running this thin of an oil ratio with Amsoil.

If you have many, many years tuning and tweaking small gas engines to work on this ratio, more power to ya. However, If you're new to gas engines and just feeling your way, I can just about guarantee you'll burn up your engine unless you run it sloppy-ass rich.

Yes, you can just order another motor, but then you've got to start all over with the break-in process and running numerous gallons through it afterward before the engine settles in and starts producing power. Why risk destroying the engine - wouldn't it just be easier to run a safer mix ratio between 40:1 and 50:1 to start with?

To each his own, but it seems to be an easier path to just start with a proven oil ratio that has worked for many people on many machines. Hope it works out for you - good luck and keep us posted.

Xcal

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01-15-2009 03:39 AM  9 years agoPost 25
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Some of the pro pilots are running this oil up to 105:1-110:1 on airplane motors. I can almost be willing to bet that it will not hurt this motor at 70:1. I've messed with a lot of gas motors running at 100:1 and they all run great. I will taking he plug out a lot to look at it to see how hot its running and i will be using a temp gun to test the motor,i'm not just going to put the oil in and go fly i will be looking hard at the motor.The oil is concentradted for this it needs to be mixed thin for it to work properly. I'm going to run about 2 gals of lawnboy ashless oil tru it first then i'm going to change over. I bet it will run like its on NOS with this mix. Do what you want because thats what i'm going to do.

Thanks for your reply

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01-15-2009 03:44 AM  9 years agoPost 26
Excalibur

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Could be an interesting experiment if you're willing to sacrifice an engine. Please keep us posted on the results.

Xcal

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01-15-2009 04:42 AM  9 years agoPost 27
rbort

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Go for it!
And if you need help with needle stuff, talk to Billme, he can run them anywhere from 1000:1 down to 64:1.

-=>Raja.

MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4210 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3280 flts
Whiplash V1-2 Hanson 300, 1555 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 393 flts

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01-15-2009 05:28 PM  9 years agoPost 28
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Well after reading a lot of post i might start off with 50:1 . I really don't want to mess the motor up i just want the oil to work like it should. I don't see why no one is running this oil on the thinner side i guess some have tried and failed. I have had gas motors for a while now and i have run them at 100:1 with no problems but i guess a gas heli is different. Have any of you ran a gas motor(plane motor)at a 100:1? I know what you all are thinking theres no way it will work but with the saber pro oil it does work. But now you guys have me a little worried about the thin mixture so i will run it thicker for a while and slowly thin it down.

Thanks for the input i will use your advise

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01-15-2009 05:34 PM  9 years agoPost 29
rbort

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Planes are different
Airplane engines run alot cooler than heli engines due to the airflow in flight. Not quite so with a heli which depends on its fan to cool it.

I fly giant scale airplanes as well, but still fly those at 40:1 even with the Amsoil. Yes people run them at 100:1, but I wouldn't want to be the one to find out I hovered too long and overheated the motor and toasted a 1k engine. What am I trying to prove? I can run lean mix and get away with it? Not worth the brownie points in my books.

-=>Raja.

MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4210 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3280 flts
Whiplash V1-2 Hanson 300, 1555 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 393 flts

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01-15-2009 07:45 PM  9 years agoPost 30
mcfast

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I would not run Amsoil at 100:1 in any of my motors.

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01-15-2009 10:15 PM  9 years agoPost 31
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Well i run it in my motors and it works great. I will try and post a video of a 13 year boy at our field hovering with the tail on the dirt with a DA 150 running at 100:1 and then tell me what you think. Or you can go to our web site and see alot of videos of gas motors running at 100:1.

flyingtigersrc.com

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01-17-2009 01:07 AM  9 years agoPost 32
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How about a link to it?

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