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01-16-2009 03:15 AM  9 years agoPost 261
flipped2left

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well thank you for the reply, yeh sometimes i do mess up on my spelling but i really try to avoid that,i also am guilty of all the hyphens and punctuations, aside from that,
i'm not blaming anyone, should i blame myself for a conflict that could have been avoided? NO!,,could i have prevented it? NO!, do i have a right to voice my opinion? YES!!!!!!
have a good night. i need sleep.

Smile! people will wonder what you're up to!!

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01-16-2009 03:46 AM  9 years agoPost 262
Dennis (RIP)

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Maybe you won't catch this until morning flipped.

But, at any rate, the next time you go to sleep, think about our young and brave volunteer soldiers out there protecting us, and many others, against those that willingly murder the innocent for some cause they believe in and want to force on the rest of the world at any cost. They are to chicken s**t to fight us square on. So, they hide behind the innocent, and also kill their own with no remorse and wish to die doing so, and expect they will peacefully go to heaven and have God's blessings. In case you did not know, those are the Terrorists those soldiers are protecting you, me, and millions of others from.

Try to show some appreciation for the freedoms you do have, at the sacrifice of others, instead of being a frigging petty complainer.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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01-16-2009 04:55 AM  9 years agoPost 263
husky385

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Nice post Dennis, I hope it sinks in.
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01-16-2009 05:11 AM  9 years agoPost 264
Dennis (RIP)

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Nice post Dennis, I hope it sinks in.
I doubt it Kevin.

But, its worth a shot.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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01-16-2009 08:28 AM  9 years agoPost 265
mchammer

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Peace Through Superior Firepower!!!

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01-17-2009 03:20 AM  9 years agoPost 266
tarmack

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Man, I have been reading this for a while and two things are true, most people on here have never studied history in general and flipped is totally freeking nuts. First of all there are no palestinians, they are Syrians living in Palistine...there is a difference..Please study the history before calling me names, I know that will be hard for some as it seems the best that many on here can do. Peace has never come in any conflict until one side wins and one side loses. The idiots on here that think when we pull out of Iraq that all will be well do not understand and worse yet are to stupid to remember the lessons from Nam, can you say killing fields. I know, it was all our fault and no one would have died in Cambodia if we had not fought that illegal war...bla bla bla. The good people of Cambodia were just misunderstood and the millions they killed had it coming, they just didn'y get with the reprogram. If you think for one second China, Russia, USA, Germany, Spain, Italy, Ireland, ect... would stand for ANYONE launching missles into their land for years and not wipe them off the map then your dreaming. Isreal keeps cowing down to countries that tell them to tolerate being shelled and accept the minor losses as a cost of living near these lunatic terrorists. Crap, fight the war, win the war, then there will be peace.

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01-17-2009 04:02 AM  9 years agoPost 267
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First of all there are no palestinians, they are Syrians living in Palistine...there is a difference..
You are so right Tarmack, tell them what the difference is.

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01-17-2009 04:05 AM  9 years agoPost 268
jamesdh

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fight the war, win the war, then there will be peace.
Amen!

Been that way for centuries.. why do you think it will change overnight?

Peace thru superior fire power!

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01-17-2009 08:09 AM  9 years agoPost 269
shawmcky

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Just Waiting
When i started this post i was interested to see how long it would be before Iran was named as the next target.The truce that has been proposed appears to involve targetting the arms suppliers.The timing of this conflict and its aims all appear to be coming to fruition.Can i buy shares in companies like Haliburton.I wanna make some serious money.There is some damn good footage from inside Gaza on You -Tube if you have the stomach for it.At least those dead children wont grow up to be terrorists whether they wanted to or just wanted to live a peacefull life.I take no sides in this but if you have kids and see some of this footage that is not shown here you cannot help but be moved by it.Innocent people always seem to bear the brunt of these wars stirred up by a few crazy power hungry politicians.Then again isnt that what has started all the worlds problems?

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01-17-2009 08:28 AM  9 years agoPost 270
shawmcky

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Just Waiting
"PEACE THROUGH SUPERIOR INTELLECT"I think not.(not so far anyway)

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01-17-2009 08:29 AM  9 years agoPost 271
GimbalFan (RIP)

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"PEACE THROUGH SUPERIOR INTELLECT" I think not (not so far anyway).
Such conflicts (too numerous to count, sadly) here and there on Planet Earth often bring to mind that great 1985 Sting (Gordon Sumner) song "Russians".

After witnessing the accounts of what these insane warriors are willing to do to one another and their neighbors and each others' children, one tends to wonder how much the parents involved in such conflicts love their children.

And so the insanity continues. Why? Because -- saddest of all -- it is human nature that a certain percentage of the planet's 6.7 billion humans ALWAYS will be unable to grasp the fundamentals of existence and make use of them.

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01-17-2009 08:58 AM  9 years agoPost 272
tarmack

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Shaw,

I wondered how long it would be before someone yells Halliburton! You people are so predictable, do you even know what Halliburton does? They are an oil company rigger and production company.

"Halliburton, founded in 1919, is one of the world’s largest providers of products and services to the energy industry. With over 55,000 employees in approximately 70 countries, the company serves the upstream oil and gas industry throughout the life cycle of the reservoir - from locating hydrocarbons and managing geological data, to drilling and formation evaluation, well construction and completion, and optimizing production through the life of the field."
And the big evil company and its minions do what they can to destroy mankind....."Halliburton’s total corporate giving for 2007, including cash and in-kind donations, was nearly $353 million, and our employees volunteered more than 30,000 hours during the year."

The company is awarded a no bid contract because they are the only company big enough to handle a project the size of the one after Sadam torches his oilfields and the freeking crazies in the left see conspiracy with the evil Dick Chenney.

If you want to talk about civilians caught us in war look at England during WWII, how many civillians died due to the German V-2, V-1, and night bombing raids? How many died during the Allied bombings of Dresden, or Japan....... that happens in war, it sucks, but it happens. What about the 6 million innocent Jews slaughtered by the Nazi's. Maybe if these crazy terrorists would stop lobbing missles at people that just want peace then just maybe there could be peace. But until Muslim moms stop strapping TNT to their children and telling them god wants them to blow some Jewish moms children up then I doubt that will EVER happen. Oh, I forgot its ok if they do that because they are oppressed......I guess those poor upper class Saudi's that dove airplanes into the World Trade Center were just confused. I have never understood why some people root for those that would just as soon slit the troats of their kids neck as look at them and wish the destruction of people just trying to survive. I have NEVER seen a Jewish suicide bomber.

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01-17-2009 09:01 AM  9 years agoPost 273
GimbalFan (RIP)

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I have never understood why some people root for those that would just as soon slit the troats of their kids neck as look at them and wish the destruction of people just trying to survive.
Simple. Because it's human nature that some humans will behave thus, with no rhyme nor reason nor logic to it whatsoever. This characteristic would take thousands more generations (if ever) to evolve out of the human genome.

It logically follows that, overall, we are a seriously flawed species -- destined to often repeat our numerous social, moral and ethical failings ad nauseum.

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01-17-2009 09:11 AM  9 years agoPost 274
tarmack

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Gimbal,

Good and evil. They exist. Man is capable of great acts of kindness and love, beyond comprehension...I have seen this firsthand....man is also capable of the worst evil and unimaginable horrors...I have seen a few of those as well. The only difference in the two was the presence of good and evil....if you only see man through the lense of what evil he is capable then I could see why you would be depressed, but I have also seen what good man is capable of, what sacrifice, what humility, and what compassion.

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01-17-2009 09:12 AM  9 years agoPost 275
mchammer

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fight the war, win the war, then there will be peace.
Well put...

Peace Through Superior Firepower!!!

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01-17-2009 09:12 AM  9 years agoPost 276
shawmcky

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tarmak
Now i realise how simple things are ,so black and white ,i will go away and modify my thinking.Thankyou for your input.As i said i am not taking sides in this,i am sure that most arabs would not slit the throats of their children,why they wouldnt have anything to eat if they did that would they?

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01-17-2009 09:19 AM  9 years agoPost 277
GimbalFan (RIP)

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I could see why you would be depressed
What I feel isn't depression -- it's disappointment -- and it surfaces more often and to greater degrees the older and better-informed I become.

I too have witnessed the awesome kindness certain members of our species sometimes exhibit -- and also the awesome evil which also prevails amongst certain genotypes. What disappoints me most is the knowledge that BOTH characteristics are deeply ingrained in our species' DNA -- with no end in sight to our evil aspects. And I often doubt whether (overall, as a species) the positive effect of our good side can overcome the negative effect of our evil side. Again -- it's human nature -- which will not soon -- if ever -- change.

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01-17-2009 09:20 AM  9 years agoPost 278
tarmack

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Shaw,

Thats your choice man. But some things are black and white. Thats the problem today, some people want everything to be relative. Such is the case when the UN talks about "a measured response" to HAMAS shooting missles into Israel...after all they only killed a few Jews....yeah try that with the UK and we would see what measured resonse the Brits would have.

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01-17-2009 09:28 AM  9 years agoPost 279
shawmcky

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Northern Ireland
We did not fire missiles at Ireland because of the actions of a few,in the end we got around a table to talk.Once the I.R.A started the campaign against London we could not justify killing everyone in Ireland.In that conflict who was the terrorist anyway,maybe History has the answer.

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01-17-2009 09:37 AM  9 years agoPost 280
tarmack

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Shaw,

England locked down Ireland due the the IRA. The IRA didn't strap bombs onto kids and send them into England to kill other children. And if the IRA started launcing missles into jolly old England from Irish soil you bet you arse they would have bombed Ireland into the stone age. The only way the IRA came to the table was that both sided got tired of the loss of life with no end in sight. The Muslims have been fighting this war for over a thousand years! They don't want peace, they themselves state VERY clearly they want the destruction of Israel and the Jewsish people....how do you negotiate with someone that only wants you dead! The IRA didn't want all the English dead.

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