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09-18-2009 03:04 AM  11 years ago
Malc1

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Graham

No ones ignoring you the extra length that you had on your header has been on my mind for a while - its just getting hold of one to cut down is the problem.
Been trying options with my header first.
Even thought of ringing Motors and Rotors to see if they can get me one.
Thing is really this issue has been going on for a long time and it is no where near to being sorted out.
This product is being sold as a complete solution like this

Fingers crossed that Alex doesn`t get too mad
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09-18-2009 03:19 AM  11 years ago
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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It looks like this stuff advertised on eBay
Nice find, but can you locate the same stuff in 19mm?
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09-18-2009 07:55 AM  11 years ago
carpman

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Here you go Ace just for you:

http://tiny.cc/drzSg

"Ace Hose Clips"

Anyway think I am going to get a side mount Zimmerman or Century, I am flying with the stock can but the canopy doesn't fit with it on...

Hopefully a solution will appear and I can get some use out of the rear mount later...

Something like this would be good in the right dimensions:

http://tiny.cc/ituPN
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09-18-2009 09:56 AM  11 years ago
pgkevet

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"Ace Hose Clips"
makes you wonder where ace needs one of those
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09-18-2009 10:35 AM  11 years ago
brw0513

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Is this what you're after? It's 19mm ID.

http://www.logicrc.com/Default.aspx?ItemId=L-LST19HT&s=
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09-18-2009 10:49 AM  11 years ago
carpman

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I think that is what Malc has just bought LogicRC, we await his report...

I like how in the picture its held on with plastic tie wraps
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09-18-2009 10:50 AM  11 years ago
Malc1

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Yeah thats the stuff I`ve got here

Don`t think I`m just going to fit this and fly though -I need to do something with that gap first I think.

Just trying to find someone to machine the Teflon bar at the moment,then there`s trying to get a longer header and then there`s the metal tubing I`m thinking of fitting to completely close the gap.

Make it with a flange either end so it fits into the pipes,get the slight bend in it and then put that 350C Teflon and clips over the top.

BTW Alex is not prepared to exchange this muffler only supply a side mount at a slightly reduced cost.

Zimmerman also answered the emails and we not all that helpful.
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09-18-2009 10:56 AM  11 years ago
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Nah, fit and fly and report back, we're waiting to order something KEVIN
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09-18-2009 10:56 AM  11 years ago
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..still waiitng for you to give up and use the drinks can.. could have wrapped it over the last attempt..pgk
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09-18-2009 10:59 AM  11 years ago
Malc1

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I can`t give up yet even though I am so close to doing so.

Couple more attempts and that will do me - I was dreaming bloody headers and pipes all last night
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09-18-2009 11:07 AM  11 years ago
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Experimenting is all part of the fun!!!
or are some of us too old to remember
Team- unbiased opinion.K.I.S.S principle upheld here
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09-18-2009 12:17 PM  11 years ago
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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BTW Alex is not prepared to exchange this muffler only supply a side mount at a slightly reduced cost.

Zimmerman also answered the emails and we not all that helpful.
Hmmm. I'm not surprised there. Why is it that the many of the Chinese will bend over backwards to get you what you want, yet these two companies are like, "take it or leave it"?

Are they going to charge you for a new header? I think you'll be grounded for a long time waiting for another header regardless of what it costs you. Might as well slap that sliver connector on there with a piece of tubing inside and see what happens.
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09-18-2009 12:42 PM  11 years ago
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Yeah they are going to charge me

He is giving me the choice of two possibilities.

One needs to use that supplied metal flexible tubing plus Teflon and the other will need cutting to size and then use Teflon.

Until I can find someone to machine the Teflon I think that using the silver tubing is what my next plan will be.

You can only try.

Going to see if I can find some 20mm tubing (maybe Aluminium) later to enclose that gap a bit more before I use that stuff.

I have a sort of plan

At least the silicon didn`t leak like the Teflon.
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09-18-2009 12:51 PM  11 years ago
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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At least the silicon didn`t leak like the Teflon.
Yeah, at least the silicone didn't leak.

I'm not sure what Alex is talking about, but what you need is a similar header but longer.

What about ordering a 1005 header and then having a pipe fitter bend it to the correct size/angle? Then using the silver silicone coupler or perhaps a standard length Teflon connector?

I don't know how you feel about it, but if I didn't have a Zimmerman muffler already, this thread would convince me to never buy anything Zimmerman or from RCMarket. Not even a side mount muffler. They don't have real good customer service there. Mikado has fairly good customer service (at least when going through ReadyHeli), so this mentality is apparently not ubiquitous to all German companies, but it sure is frustrating.

Could you please PM me with the email address you successfully used to contact Zimmerman? I want to keep it on file.
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09-18-2009 03:11 PM  11 years ago
gramey

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Malcolm I may be wrong but this may benefit you, albeit your going to be charged for it, I'm assuming that this is what you get normally with the 1005 set up and what mine came with.
http://www.rcmarket.org/z1319-gas-h...1-pr-40704.html
It should enable you to reduce the gap considerably.
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09-18-2009 03:52 PM  11 years ago
Malc1

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Yeah thats the right one a bit different to the ones I`m being offered

This will be my option after I just try one more thing.

BTW tried to get one of these from Motors and Rotors today and they are only special order from Zimmerman.
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09-18-2009 05:04 PM  11 years ago
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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This will be my option after I just try one more thing.
I think a new header will be your only permanent solution, but what is the "one more thing" you are going to try?
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09-18-2009 06:36 PM  11 years ago
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Ok guys if you look in my gallery I will show you what works. I have been flying gassers since the 1005 came out. I have tried many different exhaust systems and different couplers. The rear mount system will work if you do the following. First, the gap between the header and muffler inlet has to be minimal. The header that came was a little long so I would trim the header and/or inlet pipe so there was just a small gap, slide the header and inlet pipe into the coupler until they touched then back out slightly. Second, the header and inlet must be close in alignment, you can tweak them to align them using a vise and a dowel inside to slightly bend them. Three, if the is no knurling on the ends ,abrade them with sand/emery paper. Four, use teflon connecters, all others will not last. I was able to cut a teflon connector in two pieces and still had enough for two clamps. The rear mount muffler is bolted rigidly to the frames with four bolts. This system worked for years with no problems. If the gap is excessive use a piece of tubing inside the coupler, with very small gap on the ends, to take up the space and then use four clamps.DaveDavison,GasGob,WhiplashGas,Spectra,JRXG11MV,12X
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09-18-2009 06:55 PM  11 years ago
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You've never had the metal fatigue at the mounting flanges on your 2005?Avant RC
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09-18-2009 07:13 PM  11 years ago
Malc1

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A quote today from Alex at RCMarket when I enquired about him sending me out one the headers that Graham has got.

"THE ISSUE IS, that the new mufflers, we make then little more "Outside" to allow canopy clearance.. so it will not work..
you will have offset of 3-4 mm, which should be covered by flex coupler"

He didn`t say anything else
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