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04-01-2009 05:42 AM  9 years agoPost 821
Gregor99

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Western Wa

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But the EC3 connectors are only $2 piece and I've only got few batteries, 2 ESCs and a few charge leads.

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04-01-2009 05:54 AM  9 years agoPost 822
TJinGuy

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Socorro, NM - USA

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I have 12 batteries and 6 escs. That adds up to $36 plus all future needs. I have MAYBE spent that much on the 30+ pairs of deans plugs I have bought over the last year (many have gone to friends, adapters and so on).

Call me cheap, call me outdated but I still don't like the EC3 plugs. So I will try out straight bullets and see how I like that.

- Chris

Team New Mexico
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04-01-2009 06:23 AM  9 years agoPost 823
zaw

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Lebanon, NH - USA

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EC3's are nothing but bullets with Keyed plastic molding. They're hard to remove for sure.

Even in clone deans, once you solder them right they work great. I use very thin solder wire and also help to keep the them connected while soldering.

As for using 3s you can easily make a regulator with parts from radio shack with a http://www.national.com/mpf/LM/LM317.html and a few resistor, You will need a heat sink to keep it cool thought.

On futaba I think when you switch the power off it activate the charger port, that have diode protection so current only goes one way.. You can probably change that to a balance plug with different switch some how.

ಠ_ಠ HBK2 built with inexpensive parts! ٩๏̯͡๏)۶ Gaui425

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04-01-2009 06:32 AM  9 years agoPost 824
Gregor99

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Western Wa

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I have 12 batteries and 6 escs. That adds up to $36 plus all future needs
There aren't many advantages having only 2 airworthy helis, but this is one of them. All things considered, I'd rather have more helis

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04-02-2009 08:48 PM  9 years agoPost 825
heliraptor10

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kokomo, in-US

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So one of my new Field Friends has decided to try helicopters again. He had a Blade CP pro that he never could get to fly,
I took a look at it, and it was seriously fubarred from all the crashes,
but his description of its behaviors leads me to believe something was wrong from the get go.

Anyhoo,
I think he's leaning (very seriously) towards a T Rex 500 electric,
I believe this one but not from here
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/...?idProduct=8917

I will be helping him get it set up (I know! god help him right?) but I was just curious if there are any out of the box things we might want to know about.

I tried to steer him towards a 450,
but he really wants the stability of a larger bird.

Money invested,
and spent from crashing is not much of a concern for him.

Lucky guy huh?

Goblin! where have you been all my life?
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04-02-2009 09:32 PM  9 years agoPost 826
TJinGuy

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I see guys recommend 500s all the time for newbs but I think that is a mistake. They are horribly expensive to crash and can do serious damage. The base crash cost for any 500 is about $100 compared to about $30 for a 450. Most of that comes from the blades. Then look at a bad crash and the difference is even more! I know he is worried about size after coming from a BCP but the difference between a 500 and 450 compared is nothing compared to the difference between a 450 and a BCP!

Anyhow that is my .02 and good to hear you will have another heli guy at the field.

- Chris

Team New Mexico
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04-02-2009 09:39 PM  9 years agoPost 827
Melnic

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Columbia, MD,USA

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Didn't we discuss this already?
BTW, I help out some noobs (and they help me too) who are beginners and fly 450's. They crash almost weekly. Maybe they are just dumbthumbing it alot but I can't imagine them on a 500. Maybe they'd be more cautious though.
10 years ago, people were learning on .30 nitros! But they spent Way more time on the training gear.
Maybe someone should start a (how did you progress thread?)
What did you buy first, how long to hover and not crash?
How long to nose in? (or did you?)
How long to forward flight figure 8's.
How much did you spend on parts till then?
How long before you got a 2nd heli?
How long before your wife started to say "Another helicopter"?
How long before you started to HIDE your helicopter?
How long before you were helping OTHER people learn?
How long before you decided you were going to by a Nitro?
How...Loop
How...Roll
How...Flip
How...

Ok, I'll do the thread

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04-03-2009 01:33 AM  9 years agoPost 828
heliraptor10

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kokomo, in-US

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I have no idea how he will take to the training exercises.

As I have adamantly suggested the 450,
I will push the training maneuvers (that I skipped for too long),
But beyond that
He's gonna do what he wants.

But other than crash cost,
a bird that size should be good to learn on if he takes it slow right?

As for the dangers,
he's got quite the hangar,
so he knows how dangerous the models can be.

Goblin! where have you been all my life?
RC helis, the original fidget spinners

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04-03-2009 01:45 AM  9 years agoPost 829
TJinGuy

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Socorro, NM - USA

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People always say bigger birds are easier to fly but that is not entirely true. As it turns out, a stock setup Rex500 is a beast. It i very quick, very powerful and very sensitive. For the seasoned pilot they are great but something with less performance and little more slop in the head would be 100 times easier. The good news is that you can tame it down some with lower head speeds, flybar weights and less cyclic pitch. But even then it is going to be a handful for a newbie.

Good luck

- Chris

Team New Mexico
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04-03-2009 01:49 AM  9 years agoPost 830
heliraptor10

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kokomo, in-US

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Yeah,
I am trying to talk him into an e550.

Something to grow with.

But,
its his money.

Goblin! where have you been all my life?
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04-03-2009 01:53 AM  9 years agoPost 831
tryan02

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Canton, Missouri

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Money invested,
and spent from crashing is not much of a concern for him.
Terrible problem I had a 500 size heli the ECO8 it is fragile and more expensive than a TREX500. I sold it before I ever flew it to afford a BCPP. I think the guy should buy a TREX500!!!!

But he should lay down the $200 for a sim spend enough time hovering in the sim to learn all orientations. Then get the TREX500 have someone help with the build explaining all the parts and pieces and bolt on the TG and start all over with the real thing.

After doing things the hard way I wish I would of done it the above way.

And as far as the 450 vs 500 hey he wants a 500 buy a 500 cause thats what he wants.

I have been looking at the 500ESP lots of upgrades and servos makes it a good buy. Not sure its the thing for a beginner? Not sure yet but I think my 450 may end up looking for a new home it just sits in a case behind the couch. poor heli

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04-03-2009 01:54 AM  9 years agoPost 832
MMike

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Holland,Mi-USA

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I see guys recommend 500s all the time for newbs but I think that is a mistake. They are horribly expensive to crash and can do serious damage. The base crash cost for any 500 is about $100 compared to about $30 for a 450. Most of that comes from the blades.
I agree.

If your friend needs "stick time", and doesn't have hovering experience, a Quark might be an excellent home training heli.

Not an impressive choice, but IMHO, very smart.

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04-03-2009 02:05 AM  9 years agoPost 833
heliraptor10

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kokomo, in-US

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Yeah,
he keeps asking me,
"What did you do?"

regarding heli size,
training gear etc.

I tell him truthfully,
but where necessary
I explain it as a better example of what not to do.

He's got Realflight,
and has been hitting the helis hardcore,
since I told him his blade was crap (he had given up on helis because of not being able to get it airborne).

I am gonna do all I can to stress the importance of orientation exercise,
and push the training gear.

He's an excellent planker,
But I think he might be a heliguy at heart

Edit:

I am going to do all I can to make sure he never feels that
" I wish I would have ________"

Goblin! where have you been all my life?
RC helis, the original fidget spinners

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04-03-2009 02:08 AM  9 years agoPost 834
MMike

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Holland,Mi-USA

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Tryan, Your points are good. One issue that I don't know about is...

How does this fellow feel about $100 a crash??

He might be fine with it...

On the other hand, he might not be.

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04-03-2009 02:14 AM  9 years agoPost 835
heliraptor10

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kokomo, in-US

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I told him that light crashes normally run 10-15% of the helis total worth,
and hard crashes......

Anyways
He know that even a light bump on that bird could cost a bit.

He says he's not worried about it.

Lucky him huh?

Goblin! where have you been all my life?
RC helis, the original fidget spinners

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04-03-2009 02:23 AM  9 years agoPost 836
tryan02

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Canton, Missouri

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I dont understand

Maybe its because I started on one of the hardest helis the BCPP. But I spent $250 on that heli and over $300 in blades and spindles and mainshafts and tailmotors. And I got to the point I could hover tail and side in and hover around in a oval. My point is over $500 before I spent another $100 on king2 and powerplant to learn to fly FF and all orientations with a few more crashes along the way but nothing major on the king just fender benders for a total of maybe $650.

Sorry I am gonna pimp the nitro of course. But a crash kit for a R30 with CF blades is only $65 and the used R30 can be picked up for a song right TJ.

crash kit link may want to bookmark this when you start 3D with the raptor TJ.
http://www.heliproz.com/prodinfo.asp?number=804203

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04-03-2009 05:51 AM  9 years agoPost 837
Gregor99

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Western Wa

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The T500 could be good heli for beginners. But only ones that aren't going for 3d on thier 10th flight. Like any larger heli they require respect and maturity. You can afford a little less of both with 450s. For those that are willing to invest the time into thier orientations and don't need rush ahead, regular crashing is not required to learn to fly.

You can bring the crash costs down with fiberglass blades and now Zippy packs are available for the T500 (2650mAh 6S1P 30C $58) (3000mAh 6S1P 20C $51).

Also the frame stiffeners from K2 help save the frame, or can repair the frame in a crash.


http://www.k2heli.com/products.asp

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04-03-2009 05:58 AM  9 years agoPost 838
30636086

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Tacoma, WA

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Did you work on your heli today?
The weather has been and it will be crappy; but I a voice that said "psssst, psssst I'm thirsty!" So I had to started her and let her idle. Sweeeeet sound!!!

I dont suffer from mental iIlness, I actually enjoy mine!

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04-03-2009 06:06 AM  9 years agoPost 839
Gregor99

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Western Wa

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30636086, same thing up north. I went up one tooth on my pinion and adjusted the rate mode hover, all in the garage. I'm itching to try it out, but the rain has been persistant.

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04-03-2009 06:13 AM  9 years agoPost 840
TJinGuy

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Socorro, NM - USA

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I pulled the tank on my R30 and replaced the fuel line to the clunk and to the header tank. I need to order a new remote glow adapter as mine was broke when I got it. This means I can't start the bird with the canopy on and that makes me not fly it with the canopy on ... I want to change that as it is not that easy to see all big and black. Then I tossed some green outrage paddles on the Rex for visibility.

- Chris

Team New Mexico
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