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08-24-2008 05:40 PM  12 years ago
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TRACERBOB

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Schluter mini boy question
I'm looking at a mini-boy, complete with documents, engine and old radio (which I won't use). Looks to be never flown but it could be a flyer. Asking price is 300.

Is this a fair price?

How about part availability?

This is also posted in the antiques forum but I think I could get a quicker response here
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08-24-2008 06:11 PM  12 years ago
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IMHO, if you want it just to have an antique, that's OK. If, however, you want it for a flyer, I would not do it. The Miniboy did not fly very well because it used a small rotor at high RPM (6.7:1 ratio), and so would not do aerobatics well, or autorotate well.The government cannot give you anything without first taking it from someone else.
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08-24-2008 06:19 PM  12 years ago
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Thanks, point takenLife is hard. Harder when your stupid
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08-25-2008 01:13 AM  12 years ago
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Wow, Talk about a blast from the past. I still have the remains of my old Mini Boy. New I paid around $250.00 about 20 years ago. But if sombody was to buy it for antique. It would sell for at least that much if not more. Not an easy machine to fly. It hovered good but but was handfull for anything else. It has mechanical tail mixing which you can delete with the new radios and blades are hard to get if you can get them at all anymore. They dont have a single bolt hole at the hub they use two metal brackets that use 3 bolts for each blade that get bolted to the blades then another bolt that mounts to the rotor hub as a pivot bolt. If you fly it I would recommend using 2.4 radio instead of FM. Has alot of metal to metal parts that are prone for radio noise. There was many times I pick it up in a hover and had some kind of radio interference and the thing started chasing me around untill I crashed it or had to dump it on a dead run. But with the new radios that are out now with the throttle curves and the new gyros should be a hole lot easier to fly now. I like to get mine back together someday. Fly it one time then hang it garage and be done with it.
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08-25-2008 01:40 AM  12 years ago
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Yea, that brings back memories of my Schluter heliboy. Lots of radio noise. I could turn on the radio and then tap on the tail boom with a screwdriver and the radio would go nuts. I'd forgotten all about that. Maybe I should pass on this and restore my old Kavan Alouette that I bought new in 1979 instead.Life is hard. Harder when your stupid
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08-25-2008 05:01 AM  12 years ago
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Me and my MiniBoy -- back about 1982:

I flew it regularly when I lived near Kansas City 1984-1987, and continued to fly it for a while longer when I lived in Albuquerque. Even at altitudes approaching 5300 feet, with an OS 45 FSR, it flew, and fairly well at that altitude.

I finally sold it on Ebay in the late 90's, perhaps '98 or '99 to a fellow who needed parts, after I moved to Iowa.

Parts are NOT readily available, haven't been for decades, the heli hasn't been produced for close to 25 years. Sources for parts are pretty much relegated to Ebay, the classified section here on RR, and elsewhere, and sometimes garage sales. You will need to be a veteran scrounger to keep this bird alive.

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Typical power was an HP Gold Cup 40, and later, the OS 45 FSR, with a little can-type muffler from Schluter. Performance with the OS 45 FSR was very lively.

With an OS 45 FSR, flying approximately 850 feet above sea level, the MiniBoy flew quite well. The pictures above were taken when I lived in Bozeman, Montana, at an altitude of roughly 4800 feet. The motor at the time was the HP Gold Cup 40 (which I think can still be had from MECOA).

Though it is clearly not up to today's standards for flight performance, the MiniBoy was quite capable in its own right. After figuring out how to do loops with my Heliboy, I found the MiniBoy to be quite capable as well.

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There are three reasons you would probably buy one today:

1. You owned one in the distant past and want to restore it as for reasons of nostalgia,

2. You already have one in pieces and are looking for spare parts to keep it flying,

3. You collect interesting old helicopters with no intention of flying them.

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You would definitely NOT buy one today if it were going to be your everyday heli, or the one you want to learn to fly on.

$300 is a bit steep if you don't own one and aren't looking for parts. If you're desperate and looking for parts to keep a current one flying, $300 might be just the ticket.

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When this heli was in its heyday, we were flying them with mechanical mixing, using AM, non-computer radios and no gyros. As long as you understood the need to use locktite on the screws, metal-to-metal noise was NOT an issue, and glitches due to the airframe were NOT a problem. As FM/PPM radios became generally available, we switched over, not for the added noise immunity, but because the AM stuff was beginning to be phased out. As radios improved -- an actual heli radio with electronic mixing of the throttle, rudder, and collective appeared, these were FM versions, and allowed us to finally dump the mechanical mixers altogether. This move made the MiniBoy a much better handling heli.

The MiniBoy was a fun heli to own, a fun heli to fly, and as with all of the Schluter helis up through and including the Champion, was rugged, reliable, and pretty much maintenance free.

The MiniBoy flew as well as the HeliBoy and HeliStars of Schluter lineage, it was NOT a difficult heli to operate, control or fly. I had a ball with mine.
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02-02-2013 05:10 PM  7 years ago
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I have a vintage Futaba FG-T7/K 7 channel radio and a Miniboy heli. What to add a Futaba GY401 gyro. Will this gyro work with the FPR107M 72 Mhz receiver with S28 servo for the rudder?
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02-02-2013 05:43 PM  7 years ago
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401 will work ok with the radio, but the servo is just too slow, and even if you set delays perfectly on the 401, it could burn the servo in little time. Get a better tail servo like a Savox 1290mg for peace of mind.

BTW, You have to be wrong in the head to fly a miniboy . I did about 4 times, last year at the Vintatge Rally.

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02-02-2013 05:47 PM  7 years ago
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Never mind on being sure bout the radio, I was thinking it is a gold FG. The FM sends 1500ms center pulse whcih is what you need, but the AM is something lower.

Could you post a photo of the radio (front/back) to make sure.
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02-02-2013 07:16 PM  7 years ago
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Schlueter is the inventor of the model helicopter.
This is the first mass model from him.

So to put it for flying from time to time at a antik heli gathering it would be worth paying that.
Restoring an old really flown one would be a lot more expensive.
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