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08-24-2008 03:44 PM  12 years ago
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TmMugen

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ATG: Do I need to off my throttle to elevator/ aileron mix?
Guys:

I am running normal mode and would like to check if I should off my throttle to elevator and aileron mix?

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08-24-2008 10:34 PM  12 years ago
idigrc2

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before using a gov I used throttle mix with my cyclic. With the gov you really don't need it since it is keeping the same head speedI once choked a smurf to see what color it would trun
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08-24-2008 11:37 PM  12 years ago
tadawson

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It really doesn't matter, since the gov will ignore it, but if you decide to disable the gov and fly on curves, it may be nice to have it in place. So, since it doesn't hurt anything, myself, I'd leave it . . .

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08-25-2008 04:48 AM  12 years ago
psych-lick

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You should always set your heli up for curves first. Then, install a gov.
This is especially true with the ATG.

While the ATG will work without curves setup, it will work much better after your curves are setup (all three - pitch, cyclic and rudder). Why??
The ATG is designed to 'listen' to your throttle channel and allow the input to go to the throttle. It will 'help' when necessary - as your rpm starts to vary from it's set point the ATG will provide more throttle input as necessary to keep the rpm within limits.

The ATG has two modes - Normal & Active. Both modes will pass the throttle channel to the servo unchanged. Normal will keep your rpm within a tight range, whereas the Active mode will allow your rpm to fluctuate to a greater range before kicking in to help.
-Jeff T.
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08-26-2008 04:43 PM  12 years ago
TmMugen

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Thanks guys. What is the RPM you running on for stunt 1 and 2?

By the way, is it better to run normal mode or ATG mode?
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08-26-2008 05:20 PM  12 years ago
psych-lick

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unless you are an expert pilot, i would suggest the normal mode (tight governed).

Your headspeed depends on what heli and your flying style.. if you are running 600mm blades then 1950 should be a good start.
-Jeff T.
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08-26-2008 05:28 PM  12 years ago
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In the basic mode the governor controls the throttle all the time,the curves are not involved. In the active mode the ATG monitors RPM and makes additional changes only when needed.
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08-27-2008 03:45 AM  12 years ago
TmMugen

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Thanks guys. What about the throttle curve for normal mode? I saw some guys using 100% straight across.
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08-27-2008 03:50 AM  12 years ago
psych-lick

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those guys did not know the ATG very well..
the ATG will watch your throttle channel in normal mode to help predict if it needs to add or subtract from current position before your rpm changes.
at the very least.. make a 100-50-100 curve
-Jeff T.
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08-27-2008 04:23 AM  12 years ago
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Thanks again. Will try to do it. But one thing I noticed is the RPM does not seems to keep up when I am trying to tic toc. Maybe could be due to my bad collective management.
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08-27-2008 06:41 AM  12 years ago
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It can underspeed when it passes the center stick position in either mode when using the curves. An easy way to fix this is to set the low point again, only this time set the throttle trim at the half way point. This will set a "false" low and will reduce or eliminate underspeeding at zero pitch. This can be taylored to get a higher overspeed or underspeed at zero degrees pitch depending on the desire of the pilot. The underspeeding is likely what you are seeing.

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08-30-2008 08:20 AM  12 years ago
TmMugen

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Hi Brian:

Care to elaborate more? Dun quite understand this.

ATG mode: is the reading from the G view be accurate?
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09-05-2008 08:09 PM  12 years ago
patmac

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I am running the ATG on my Aurora with the ys91sr. Can anyone recommend a throttle servo? I am running 6v with a 9254 (curtiss himself told me it was ok to run the 9254, just not the 9256) However, I still get a buzz from this high frame rate servo. I am liking the atg, it works very well, just the buzz is unsettling.....
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09-06-2008 05:11 AM  12 years ago
TmMugen

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Just wondering if the G view RPM will be accurate if I uses the ATG mode?
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