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08-23-2008 02:54 AM  12 years ago
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Who really cares about giving to the needy McCain/Obama?
Well, if you look at who puts their money where their mouth is....The clear winner is McCain.

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_...n-releases.html

McCain
2006: 96,758.00 28.6% of his income
2007: 118,660.00 27.3% of his income

Obama
2006: 60,307.00 6.1% of his income
2007: 240,370.00 5.8% of his income

Obama gave around 1% till he decided to run for President...Even then he still gave less of a % than McCain.

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_...a-releases.html

Obama’s 2002 income puts him close to being in the top 1% richest Americans. Yet in that same year, they were only giving $20/week to charity.
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08-23-2008 03:30 AM  12 years ago
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Yeah, Obama's brother was found living in a 9 x 6 shack in Kenya. Thats with No indoor plumbing.

And living on $1.00 per month. Thats $12.00 per year.

Seems Obama could have sent the poor slob $100.00. Just that small amount, once in a while, would have made his own brother almost a rich man.

To late Obama. The words out.

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08-23-2008 07:24 AM  12 years ago
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Anyone notice how the figures for Clinton prove that under Bush the richest pay the least tax? (tax/AGI).

(Sorry Ron, couldn't help noticing that... )
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08-23-2008 07:48 AM  12 years ago
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Seems Obama could have sent the poor slob $100.00. Just that small amount, once in a while, would have made his own brother almost a rich man.
Oh please Dennis if he did that you would have called him a COMMY.
So Ron you believe McCain is going to give your tax money to poor people?
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08-23-2008 08:55 AM  12 years ago
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Are you telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you God now Ron or are you trying to paint an illusion?
30,7% of his income in tax + 27,3 % "to the poor"....how much does his wife make and how much does she donate?
How much do you donate?

Looks to me like McCain has been playing the game longer than Obama and that his wife is paying the expences.....
“Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery.”
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08-23-2008 09:10 AM  12 years ago
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Obama's brother story from 2004.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6333496

Yeah, it says his brother CHOOSES to live the way he lives.

And I have a pretty good feeling that MONEY, regardless of currency, hasn't much meaning to anyone who chooses that live that lifestyle.

It's paper. It's something to wipe your ass with.
Still, Malik Obama prefers the village to the fast-paced capital, Nairobi, where he grew up. He runs an electronics shop in a town a half-hour drive away, and works as a consultant in Washington for a few months each year.
I'm under the impression that he isn't poor?
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08-24-2008 04:42 AM  12 years ago
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So Ron you believe McCain is going to give your tax money to poor people?
No. After read Obama's website it is pretty clear that Obama does not really want to control spending. It is not that I disagree with some of Obama's positions....It is the 'fix' he plans to attempt.

Seriously, read his plans...They almost all involve some infusion of tax payer money. I like the idea of reducing spending, not increasing it.

But the point of this piece is that while some claim McCain does not care about the needy, and that only Obama does is to show that between the two only one has given a larger percent to charity consistently.
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08-24-2008 11:08 AM  12 years ago
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Were the questions unpleasant Ronnie?“Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery.”
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08-25-2008 02:51 AM  12 years ago
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Were the questions unpleasant Ronnie?
Were the facts too unpleasant for you?
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08-25-2008 07:59 AM  12 years ago
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Back peddling to avoid answering Ron?

Did you check it before or after?
“Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery.”
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08-25-2008 08:11 AM  12 years ago
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unlike you, tintin, we work and pay taxes in part to pay for the indigent like you.

we have enough idiots like you and most Americans would take a dim view of being compared to a pi$$ant country like yours.

especially when they see a braying jackas$ like you for an amb"ass"ador.

but you continue to brag about how your mission in life is to stir your pi$$pot while you wait for your "tea"
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08-25-2008 03:27 PM  12 years ago
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08-25-2008 04:25 PM  12 years ago
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Back peddling to avoid answering Ron?
No that's your style.

I guess you didn't like the facts after all. So now you are trying to distract and make it personal....Like always.

You need to bring more than just emotionally charged attacks.
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08-25-2008 04:30 PM  12 years ago
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No that's your style.

I guess you didn't like the facts after all. So now you are trying to distract and make it personal....Like always.
Side stepping is Tintinny's style when he starts to loose an argument. That way, you can always tell when you have the best of him.

You have to keep him on track and his mind off that cute Swedish butt over there.

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08-25-2008 06:56 PM  12 years ago
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Well Ron, why don't you just answer those simple questions then.....“Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery.”
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08-25-2008 07:25 PM  12 years ago
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Well Ron, why don't you just answer those simple questions then.....
No answer is really needed. The facts speak clearly. You choose to ignore them and are trying to turn this into a personal pissing match. Such as asking for my %'s.

You have shown that you try to drag the conversation down to personal attacks. And you have stated time after time that you don't care about data or counterpoints if they do not fit your personal views.

So really, the facts have been presented and what is the point in discussion with someone who only wants to incite and refuses to discuss?

But, just to allow you to prove you have no other agenda:
Are you telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you God now Ron or are you trying to paint an illusion?
I have presented DATA that shows that between McCain and Obama that McCain gives a much higher percentage than Obama's family.
how much does his wife make and how much does she donate?
Her tax records are not public record. So, neither you nor I know that information. But SHE is not running for office. They have had separate finances since they were married.

The point is that some want to claim that McCain does not care about the needy and only Obama does. But the tax records show quite the opposite. They show that McCain has a history of 20% + donations while Obama has a history of < 5%.
How much do you donate?
More % than Obama, less than McCain. Plus, I donate my time to several causes.

Now:

1. How much do you give?

2. You don't find it at all interesting that one candidate has a long history of donations (20%+) while the other was giving less than 1% till he decided to run for President?
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08-25-2008 07:40 PM  12 years ago
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Oh yes Ron, I find it interesting enough to find it very unlikely that he would do that if he was living off that income alone and had no agenda.....

And to me it looks like BO gave a bit more than McCain did......according to your facts...
“Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery.”
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08-25-2008 08:07 PM  12 years ago
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Who is avoiding simple questions now?
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08-25-2008 08:37 PM  12 years ago
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You're catching up Ron.....less money than both of them....
I have presented DATA that shows that between McCain and Obama that McCain gives a much higher percentage than Obama's family.
Interesting how you on one side state McCain and on the other the Obama family.....wouldn't it be more interesting to compare both families?

I wonder how many is helped by percentages and how many by the actual money ....
“Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery.”
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08-25-2008 09:02 PM  12 years ago
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wouldn't it be more interesting to compare both families?
Not really, the McCain family will beat the Obama family hands down... Cindy McCain founded the American Voluntary Medical Team in 1988 and donated tens of millions of dollars to supply medical treatment and food to poor and sick children around the world.

As a matter of fact, The McCain's have donated more in the last 20 years than the Obama's have even earned.
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