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08-22-2008 12:38 PM  12 years ago
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fenderstrat

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all 550 owners,set up questions
alright I have decided to step up with the big boys and I have just purchased an E550(airframe and motor),it will be here next week.But I am taking my time on the build.Yes I did a search on servos/gyros/batts but most of the info was almost a year if not more old,so I'd like CURRENT set up info

what are you guys using as far as servos/gyro/batts,and any mods or tricks I should know about?I am doing advanced sport flying right now(loops,flips rolls.funnels and inverted)so its not getting flown really hard yet, but I'm not just hovering either,any advice is appreciated,thanks FENDER

p.s.cant wait to see what a "BIG" heli flies like I've been flying the hell out of a MT and HBK2 for the last year
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08-22-2008 01:22 PM  12 years ago
stocky

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GY401/S9254 Gyro / Tail Servo
Tail Mount Servo conversion

[forgot # for EAP Servos will edit in later]
Flight Power 6S 4900mAh (expensive (299+)and had one puff on me)
TrueRC 6S 4000mAh (cheap (100) and F time is as long as FP4900)
AR7000
SAB 550 Mains
Stock Tail Blades
Stock ESC/RipperMotor
QuickUK Head
QuickUK Tail Box

I had a lot of play in the swash plate very early on, I replaced it with a TT all metal job.

Some people swear by the Green TT paddles, I don't use them so no comment.

Link to pdf manual
http://acehobby.com/ace/PDF/Heli/Raptor_E_manual.pdf

An often overlooked parts link, kinda like the HBK Jags or Kr's
http://www.thundertiger4u.com/eraptor-c-155.html

Don't forget a lot of the Raptor Nitro 30 and 50 parts are compatible with the 550.
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08-22-2008 02:39 PM  12 years ago
Ben-T-Spindle

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The E550 flies great with stock motor and ESC. The E550 does not need any upgrades.

A GY401/S9254 is good for tail control.
Main servos depend on how you fly and how much you can spend. S9252 servos are excellent and you can find some good deals if you shop around. There are lots of good servos on the market but make sure they are digital.

There are many good batteries on the market. With a 6s LiPo setup something in the 4100 to 6000 MAH range will work. I have started using some batteries from Xcitebattery.com. They have fairly good prices and so far are as good as my EVO20 packs. A very friendly place to do business.

... BTS
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08-22-2008 04:00 PM  12 years ago
tim tompkins

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I agree about the bling. No need here. I am using a 401/9254 an I'm very happy with a set of 9252's. I have a seperate regulator and a 2S li ion receiver pack. The castle creations phoenix-80 esc I had. It works great with the TT motor that is a version of the Zpower Z30A-1100. I have a set of rotortech 560 carbons and stock plastic tails. I am using a couple of different batteries. I am loving the value packs I got from tru rc. I paid 300 bucks for 2 6S 5000 packs shipped! I have some flight power bats and they are fine but no better that I can tell. This kit has been plug and play since I got it back in May. I have a set of red ,light TT paddles too. TimT
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08-22-2008 04:15 PM  12 years ago
stocky

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I agree about the bling. No need here.
I 100% agree, no need for bling at all.
I have it because I paid $0 for it, I wouldn't go out and pay $$ for it. As you say it is not needed.
Sorry if this was misinterpreted as you need a metal head and tail.
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08-22-2008 07:30 PM  12 years ago
RMG2

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Fender, you and I are travelling the same path with regard to our heli choices. I was set on buying the SWIFT 16 (550-class) for weeks, but now I have changed my mind and looking hard at the Raptor e550 instead! I like the near perfect mechanical operation of my Mini Titan so well I have a lot of confidence in Thunder Tiger and think I may stay with the brand! Parts availability is a big plus with TT products as well!

I'll be following your progress with your e550 to see how you like it and how it goes together for you Please share your thoughts as you move along with the build!
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08-22-2008 07:42 PM  12 years ago
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The layout is great. Very easy build.
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08-22-2008 11:11 PM  12 years ago
Eddie M

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Get the Stainless tail hub PV0499 if you must have hopup on your ship
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08-22-2008 11:20 PM  12 years ago
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Good Job! That's really not a hopup, more like a necessity.
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08-22-2008 11:52 PM  12 years ago
fenderstrat

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I like the near perfect mechanical operation of my Mini Titan so well I have a lot of confidence in Thunder Tiger and think I may stay with the brand! Parts availability is a big plus with TT products as well!

I'll be following your progress with your e550 to see how you like it and how it goes together for you Please share your thoughts as you move along with the build!
thats one of the reasons I went with the E550,my MT has been just about perfect mechanically,it just flies and flies day after day,what more can you ask.I will keep you updated on the progress

ok a question, do you think a hitec 5000 and futaba 9650 will work on the tail for where I'm at flying wise?the reason I ask is I have that combo sitting right here almost new,doing nothing

I am going to check out the 9252's

and for batts as you can see I am a PerformancePlusRC rep so I can get great batts at really good prices so I really needed to know what number of cells and mah,so thanks for the responses so far keep them comming,as I have plenty of time to make up my mind

p.s.anyone interested in trying the PPRC batts(we are a RR advertiser) Pm me for info, and I can get you a RR discount
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08-23-2008 12:23 AM  12 years ago
Heli 770

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If you have it use it.
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08-23-2008 09:08 AM  12 years ago
AllThumbs

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Just come back from a good days flying with my E550..

Stock motor
Stock ESC
NHP Razor 550 blades
Stock tail blades
4.8v 1800 mah reciever pack on board. (extra weight, but easy)
401/9254 gyro combo
Futaba 3050 eccpm servo's.. (Budget, but working well so far 100+ flights)
only upgrade is a metal head block( not needed, but makes me feel better when giving it death) & light (Red) tt paddles to make it more nimble.

All I do is fly.. not touched anything else..
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08-23-2008 12:37 PM  12 years ago
boltor

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fenderstrat - I am really keen to hear your thoughts on why you selected the 550. I also have an MT and am looking at moving to a larger heli (tossing up between a 550 and potentially a TRex 500 - I know, much different sizes). keen for some thoughts...
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08-23-2008 01:01 PM  12 years ago
Ben-T-Spindle

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fenderstrat - I am really keen to hear your thoughts on why you selected the 550. I also have an MT and am looking at moving to a larger heli (tossing up between a 550 and potentially a TRex 500 - I know, much different sizes). keen for some thoughts...
There is a lot of difference in size between the T500 and E550. The T500 has small blades (425 or 430mm, makes you wonder why they call it a 500 :confused and the 550 use 550mm blades. The E550 has the same frame as the E620 with a shorter boom and lightweight power system. It’s the same size as a 30-size nitro helicopter with a lot more power.

So it really depends on the size that you are looking for. I don’t have a T500 but they so fly well. On the other hand the E550 can easily be upgraded to an E620 if that is your ultimate goal. They are all excellent helicopters it just depends on what size you really want.

Another good choice if you want something smaller that a E550 is the Swift 16. They are very popular if you want a larger low priced helicopter.

... BTS
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08-23-2008 03:34 PM  12 years ago
fenderstrat

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ok good stuff,more questions.on the larger esc's they do not have a BEC ?correct?so I will need a BEC or a battery?

2) why digital servos.as long as the torque and speed are good whats the difference?
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08-23-2008 03:42 PM  12 years ago
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With an external BEC. YOU can run it with a Rx. pack or your motor pack. Digitals are more accurate.
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08-23-2008 04:13 PM  12 years ago
fenderstrat

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so I will need an external bec?the bl-75 does not have one built in?

isn't the term "bec" meaning Battery Elimination Circuit? why would you run another battery in a heli thats already on the heavy side?wouldn't you just run the BEC off the main pack?or is there something I am not getting?Remember, this is my first heli over 450 size and I dont actually have the heli yet,so sorry if my questions seem basic.But its awesome that I'm getting all this info NOW ,so i'll be ready
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08-23-2008 04:28 PM  12 years ago
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I want you to be ready also. Don't know about the bl-75. The reason for the Rx. batt. If your main pack fails you have no control over the heli. I would consider building your E550 with components that would work on a E620. that way it won't have to upgrade that much latter. And I think you'll end up doing that. We are never satisfied!
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08-23-2008 04:36 PM  12 years ago
gadgetdude

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Hey buddy!

You are going to be really happy with the E550! You will wonder how you ever were able to fly the small ones.

As you can read in many of my other posts over the last year, there is a big difference between the Trex and Raptor but I don't know how to really explain it. I always compare them to cars. My Trex 600's are like driving a Ford, there are a ton of them on the road, parts are plentiful, it is just average. My E620 is like a Mercedes. It is solid, dependable, fluid, and most importantly, fun to drive!

As far as a BEC. You want to power the RX and servos off a separate battery than your flight battery. I use a standard Align BEC that I think was about $17. I have a CC 110HV for a spped controller which is overkill. I would get a CC 85 for yours. Go with a TT brushless motor. I went with DS821 servos which work great on a electric. The gyro is a 611 and 9254. If I were you I would use a 401 combination.

Have fun!
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08-23-2008 04:39 PM  12 years ago
fenderstrat

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alright,I see.as far as upgrading I'm getting a R50 this winter,so I dont think I'll need to upgrade much,but I've said that before,LOL

but I'm not sure I'm buying the battery idea,How many people have lost a battery in-flight,seriously,what are the odds?I think I'll have to play the odds on this one and go with a BEC.Its lighter,and seems less complicated,and one less thing to worry about.if you forget to check the rx batt you could lose control mid flight.I'm willing to bet the chances of someone forgetting to check the RX battery are much greater than losing a flight battery mid flight,what do you think?

as a matter of fact I dont think I have ever read a post on RR where the pilot lost the main battery in flight,I'm not saying it cant/didn't happen,I just think its so rare that its not even a slight concern
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