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08-20-2008 11:51 PM  12 years ago
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blt4ice

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RV scam in progress or I am getting a great deal...NOT
Ok so I am searching around for RV's on the good ole craigs list and come across this nice gem. A 2002 Rambler 26' travel trailer for 2,499!!! I say to myself, "must be a misprint and left out a 9 at the end". Well what the heck I sent the email smelling a scam getting ready to happen. This is the response that I get back about the RV in question.
Hello,

If you are interested in my 2002 Holiday Rambler 26 SKS, 28 ft, it is in
perfect condition, no scratches, dings. It has a clear title ready to be
signed and notarized on your name.

I have the pictures hosted on the net and you can see them at :
http://s485.photobucket.com/albums/...HolidayRambler/ .
The camper is located Parker, CO.

The price is $2,499 including shipping costs anywhere in the continental
US. There are no other costs regarding this transaction. I am selling
the camper because I am in the army, and my unit will be deployed to
Afghanistan in September.

The transaction will be closed only through a 3rd party and this way we
will both be protected. My time is limited due to my job in the army so
I decided to use a service from ProPay. To begin the transaction I'll
need your full name and shipping address, I will forward the details of
our transaction to ProPay and then you will receive an invoice from
them. The camper will be shipped insured to your location with DAS and
you will have 5 days for inspection.

Thank you,
Justin
Brian
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08-20-2008 11:54 PM  12 years ago
blt4ice

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So I get that email back and think hey I can help out a service member by taking this nice trailer off his hands for 1/10th the price. Most likely I'll be giving 2.5k to some knucklehead. Anyway I figure I will have some fun with it a bit and see how far it can go, ya like I'm gonna just send him my full name and address.

So I send back a general email and bummer cause it isn't in my sent folder But this is the reply that I just get back, interesting enough that he did not just reply to my previous but shoots off this nice canned mail.
Hello,

The camper will be shipped trough DAS, they will deliver you the camper
in front of your door in 3-5 business days. Since my brother in law
works at DAS he promised me that it will cost me nothing to ship it to
you so the total price including the shipping fees is $2,499.

Let me explain you how the ProPay process works.
The process works something like this:
1. You send the payment deposit to an ProPay representative.
2. ProPay will confirm me that you have made the deposit.
3. I will ship the camper so you can Inspect, test and make a decision
if you will keep it or not.
4. If you will not get exactly the same camper that you have viewed in
the ad, and also a clean title you will receive all your money back from
ProPay.
5. If everything is ok ProPay will get the approval from you to release
me the funds.
If you agree with this process please let me know your full name and
address and I will forward the details to ProPay.

Thank you,
Justin
Brian
Heli tools used: Torch, Pipe Wrench, 4 ft. crowbar
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08-20-2008 11:56 PM  12 years ago
jcrack_corn

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sure its a scam.

offer to bring 2500 in cash.
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08-20-2008 11:57 PM  12 years ago
blt4ice

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Now I really know this is going to get good. I sent back an email asking what the VIN was on the trailer so I can verify the title and to also send a photo of the hitch connection and the electrical connection so that I can make sure it will mate with my hitch on my truck. I have also decided to forego his genrosity and kindness of his now employeed brother of DAS to pick the trailer up myself. Funny thing is that I looked up DAS and it costs about 5k to ship it from where he is to where I am...what a bargain!!!

So time to see what his response will be, I really can't wait and will myself plot my next manuever to see how far he will take it, and if I can get a better deal. I foresee that if I am going to go out there that he will ask for a down payment of some amount to "hold" it for me. We shall see
Brian
Heli tools used: Torch, Pipe Wrench, 4 ft. crowbar
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08-21-2008 12:06 AM  12 years ago
Pistol Pete

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he he...

subscribed out of morbid curiosity....meow.
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08-21-2008 12:20 AM  12 years ago
donthomas

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I have a buddy that found a 71 Plymouth Duster in mint condition on CL. Same scam. Free 3rd party shipping that would cost more than the $2495 price of the car. Even had 5 days to inspect with offer of a refund. They wouldn't give up any #'s or the location for inspection prior to sale. Smelled the scam bug.Don Thomas
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08-21-2008 12:49 AM  12 years ago
Mutt

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scam
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08-21-2008 01:56 AM  12 years ago
derek533

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Let me explain you how the ProPay process works.
The process works something like this:
1. You send the payment deposit to an ProPay representative.
2. ProPay will confirm me that you have made the deposit.
3. I will ship the camper so you can Inspect, test and make a decision
if you will keep it or not.
4. If you will not get exactly the same camper that you have viewed in
the ad, and also a clean title you will receive all your money back from
ProPay.
5. If everything is ok ProPay will get the approval from you to release
me the funds.
If you agree with this process please let me know your full name and
address and I will forward the details to ProPay.
Bad grammar usage. A sure sign of a scam IMO.
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08-21-2008 02:01 AM  12 years ago
Pistol Pete

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^interesting way of thinking you got there boss.~~Enjoying the hobby one flight at a time~~
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08-21-2008 02:42 AM  12 years ago
helibandit

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just the fact they want to use a 3rd party is enough to show its a scam. have fun with it!The only time you can have too much fuel is when your on fire
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08-21-2008 01:12 PM  12 years ago
blt4ice

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No reply yet I guess he bailed on my wanting of a picture, I'll send another email today asking if it is still for sale.Brian
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08-21-2008 02:14 PM  12 years ago
Phenom_57

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What a scam
I had the same reaction and experience. I went a ways with emails to flush him out. Apparently it's a pretty big scam operation.
When he said the camper was at Parker, CO, I indicated I had a cousin in the next town and they would swing by a take a look. He just keeps coming back with being busy and that he has soooo many other interested parties.
Such a shame and a joke all in one.
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08-21-2008 02:21 PM  12 years ago
blt4ice

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When he said the camper was at Parker, CO, I indicated I had a cousin in the next town and they would swing by a take a look.
Hey are you trying to get my good deal LOL
Brian
Heli tools used: Torch, Pipe Wrench, 4 ft. crowbar
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08-21-2008 02:32 PM  12 years ago
dumhuve

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It's a shame that somebody might fall for this.
I've lost 15-20 bucks to scammers in my young and blueyed days but a couple thousand?
Sharing means: you get less.
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08-21-2008 02:55 PM  12 years ago
derek533

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^interesting way of thinking you got there boss.
Not really Pistol. When a person doesn't know the correct use of "a" vs. "an" in a sentence (something taught in 6th or 7th grade English), or leaves out words of sentences, then I assume that English is not their native language and when that is coupled with a something that sounds too good to be true, you have a sure fire scam. Heck, read all those Nigerian scams going around and you'll see the exact same thing. Poor sentence structure and leaving out words that convey meaning. Did you see number 2? "Propay will confirm me". It should read "Propay will confirm TO me".

See what I'm saying? It's the bad grammar in combination with someone who's smart enough to to do something like this. If it was just some dumb person, the whole thing would be a garbled mess but this is clearly someone who is somewhat intelligent, yet can't put sentences together properly.
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08-24-2008 05:54 PM  12 years ago
Pistol Pete

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^ I'm not going to point fingers in here but given your explanation there sure are quite a few scammers in this forum then.

But none the less, congratulations on your dominance of this difficult language given its rules of "proper" usage.

Just for the "halibut"...
to, two, too
their, they're, there
sense, scents, cents
break, brake
bare, bear
can not, cannot
Its, It's
then, than
who, whom
non, none

It's not a cakewalk for some. (not even going to go into compounded words let alone fractured sentences)

Of course I have to ask, do you "dominate" any other languages as well?

Consider yourself lucky if you had a good education and or parents that were as well.

BTW...is it stereo typing, stereo-typing or stereotyping?
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08-25-2008 02:02 AM  12 years ago
desulli

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My wife is German and cant grasp the usage of bring and take....ex..bring this to dad, or take it here. Also have and had...ex..today I have eggs for breakfast, What did you had for lunch. There are a few others too but these are what I can think of.

My buddies wife is Phillippino (SP) She cant get close and off right...ex..close the light.
I might not be able to fly well, but I can crash with the best of them.
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08-25-2008 05:16 AM  12 years ago
derek533

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^ I'm not going to point fingers in here but given your explanation there sure are quite a few scammers in this forum then.
Hey, it's just my own way of looking out for myself so if you don't like my method, don't use it. But don't troll just to stir up trouble and make snide remarks. That does nothing to further the discussion.

I see a thread every day of the week where someone else has been scammed. So yes, there are a lot of scammers here. Thank you for making my point.

Oh, and no where did I say I was an expert or "dominated" this language. Come off your high horse. I'm sorry I grammatically profiled someone. I guess that wasn't PC of me.
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08-25-2008 06:34 AM  12 years ago
Speedfrek

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I have been looking to buy a golf cart for the past few months and I run across 2 or 3 of those scams ever week. And I email them and get it going. The cart is always in another state and he wants to ship it for free. So I tell him he is a thief and hope he rotts and he replies just as nice wanting to know if I am going to send the money...via money gram or western union. Yea right!

I have sold a few things to the same scammers. And that is my favorite. They just say I will take it and want to know where to send the money then they will arrange for a driver to comy by and pick up the item. So I add a few hundred to the price and tell them to send the check. When they don't say anything about the extra charge then I know it is a scam.

But they pay for overnight fedex delivery of a check so that it money out of their pocket.

I just sold my Rc car a few weeks ago for $3000. I had it for sale for $300 but I told the scammer that I had found an extra battery and that I wanted $3000 for it so he sent me a check for $3500. And I am suppose to return the money via western union ASAP. Then he will send a company over the pick up the car... LOL I got his and about 10 other checks from those scammers.
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08-25-2008 04:01 PM  12 years ago
Pistol Pete

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Reply removed.

Still subscribed.
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