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08-25-2008 02:54 AM  12 years ago
Horacio

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I'm reworking the 3 collective rods. What measurement did you guys use. I'm not a fan of the "thru" word in the instructions. I think that measurement should be exact.
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08-25-2008 03:06 AM  12 years ago
Horacio

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Also, anyone using the Futaba 3156 servos replace the arms?

If so, are there any other options out there besides the ones from BP?
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08-25-2008 05:12 AM  12 years ago
laddy

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I am using the S3156 servos but i am using the BP servo arms.Texas
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08-25-2008 07:14 AM  12 years ago
OICU812

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Yea seems everyone suggests these arms from BP yet they never have any in, I ask the same thing "is there any other vendor that carries these beefier soervo horns for the futaba servo?" ...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...
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08-25-2008 07:49 AM  12 years ago
skidzup

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Horacio,I came up with 34.5 mm on 3 the servo links, 59.9 mm on the 2 long head links and 18.7mm on the 2 short pitch links. All measurments are center to center, if you don't have a push rod tool can be easily checked on the machine measuring with a set of digital calipers from the center of each screw head. All of this of course assumes servo arms are exactly centered and throws are linear. I have also seen cases where some rotor blades are not built perfect with the root and this may require a turn in or out on the pitch links to get an equal pitch range. Hope this helps.All these micros somehow turned my 450 into my BIG machine!?!?!?
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08-25-2008 04:49 PM  12 years ago
Horacio

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Cool. Thanks.
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08-25-2008 10:37 PM  12 years ago
kcordell

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If you looked at the instructions, there is an EXACT SIZE chart for the links. Put the links together and set them on top of the chart. If you do this, all will be well.Team Synergy/Rail, Team Scorpion, YS Engines, VelTye
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08-27-2008 04:53 AM  12 years ago
skidzup

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I guess I forgot to hold the links up to my computer screen. I guess I don't build by pictures I actually READ the manuel.All these micros somehow turned my 450 into my BIG machine!?!?!?
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08-27-2008 01:26 PM  12 years ago
kcordell

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Let's not get huffy now. The instructions were done that way for a reason. Okay, so you can't hold them up against your screen, but you could have printed just that page. I read instructions too, and I actually had the entire manual printed. You can read all you want, but as you have seen and heard on many different occasions on many different items, pictures sometimes are worth a thousand words.Team Synergy/Rail, Team Scorpion, YS Engines, VelTye
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10-26-2008 06:12 PM  11 years ago
copterrider

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Can anybody help me to set up a normal throtle curve with Scorpion 55 ESC ? I prefer to have Idle I and Idle II governed and Normal with some linear curve to have start and stop of the motor under control. How to do that ? If not possible what percentage of governor you use for start, flight and 3D ? Is it possible to have Normal Mode governed eg. for 60 % and let the soft start function to operate smooth start ? How does it work just after landing ? Does the motor stop when I pull down a throttle stick at idle ?

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10-26-2008 06:27 PM  11 years ago
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copterrider,

Most aren't using governor mode with the Scorpion ESC. Just use heli mode and set a linear throttle curve (straight line) in your ID1 and ID2 throttle curves at whatever throttle percentage needed to get the desired HS. Set your normal mode from 0 to 100 or less. You may whant to use a 3 point curve in normal to get the hover point close to the same stick position as ID1 and 2. Alternatively, you can set a mode switch delay to avoid large chages in altitude when switching modes.
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10-26-2008 09:45 PM  11 years ago
kcordell

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Same radio as yours, set idle1 to 100% across and you will be happy.
You shouldn't have any issues at all with that setup. I believe my normal throttle is at 55%, at about 1/4 stick, then straight across from there. I refuse to use governor mode at this time.
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10-26-2008 09:59 PM  11 years ago
HFG

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I use the 100% flat on 11T as per kcordell's suggestion and never looked back. I don't bother with a normal mode as the soft start on this ESC is more than soft enough for start in idle up.
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11-08-2008 10:16 PM  11 years ago
xfc3dcd

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After building the rotor head on my Furion both blade grips don't rotate freely. I sent an email to MA 2 weeks ago but didn't get a reply. Anyone know what the problem might be?

Thanks,

Wendell
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11-08-2008 10:40 PM  11 years ago
buster1

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There are some new shims you can get for free from MA - that fix the problem. The heli. will fly as is and the grips loosen up with centrifugal force. I still fly mine this way, but about to install the new shims.
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11-08-2008 10:42 PM  11 years ago
rexxigpilot

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Wendell, how old is your kit? The early kits had an update issued for this problem. It included a new spacer washer and changes to the spacer locations from what was shown in the original manual. If you have a newer kit, this is already included and the manual updated. You may want to check the MA website on this. If your kit is the updated version, you probably have incorrect spacer placement. My grips rotate smooth as silk.
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11-09-2008 12:28 AM  11 years ago
xfc3dcd

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Mine was one of the first production kits.
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