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T-REX 600 › Upgrading Neu 6S or 8S
03-10-2008 05:33 AM  10 years agoPost 1
RSeeG

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Been flying my stock 600 using 2x KongPower 6S packs. I need to buy 2 more packs but am thinking of upgrading to either 1) Neu 1515/2.5 on 6S or 2) Neu 1910 on 8S.

My current setup is:
XL1650 motor
11T pinion
pitch +- 11 degrees
Max Amps = 93 (during punchout)
Max Watts = 1880 (during punchout)
typical flight = 5:30 mins with 4250mah putback
Flying level = hard FFF to basic 3D (tic toc's flips etc.)

The current setup dosent quite cut it! So I definitely need an upgrade. If I keep using 6S and get the Neu motor I need to get a bigger ESC anyway (align 100A) so I might as well just sell my 6S packs and go 8S. Advice is welcome....

Also what 8S batterys are good (been happy with the KongPowers so it is a pity they dont make a 8S pack)?

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03-10-2008 07:12 AM  10 years agoPost 2
R38133

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That Neu motor is not going to give you the power your looking for. Go with the 8s setup more power less amps cooler ESC and motor if properly setup.

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03-11-2008 02:53 AM  10 years agoPost 3
holzback

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noblesville IN United States

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not true

i have the neu 15152.5dfh and it dose great. when you run the cc 85 hv you have a great set-up. i have even ran the motor on the stock align esc, (the one with the heat sink), worked fine. pitch control is the key to power, use govenor mode also. i have no problem doing hard 3d, infact, i can take the dominion 90 on realflight g3 and put the hyper 50 on it and do 3d, it is pitch control.

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03-11-2008 06:24 PM  10 years agoPost 4
LJS

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Minnesota, USA

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Hi Grant365,

I didn't want to fly Align electronics, so I went with the Neu 1910/1Y with Jazz 55-10-32, Western Robotics 5A 6V BEC, and 8S FP Evolite 4270 batteries. Unfortunately, the weather here hasn't cooperated, so I haven't been able to wring it out to test the setup. But just from the hovering that I've done so far, it seems to have excellent power, is very smooth, and seems to have long flight times.

It looks like this weekend will be good for flying so I'll know more then. I'll keep you posted.

Keep 'em flying.
LJS

Logo 600 VBar, 10S
TRex 600E VBar, 8S
Logo 500 VBar, 6S
TRex 600ESP, 6S

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03-11-2008 07:00 PM  10 years agoPost 5
Jag72

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South of Boston

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Trex...
I'd just go to a 10s setup and be done with it...

get the Neu 1912/1y and run it on 10s 3700mah packs...you'll be grinning from ear to ear and forget all about 6s and 8s....

I used to run this setup and it was VERY powerful ...that is for a Trex and all....

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03-11-2008 07:18 PM  10 years agoPost 6
Louisiana Helicam

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West Monroe, LA

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I can answer this question for you. I just switched from the 1515 2.5 F/D/H and HV85 to the 1910/1Y and Jazz 55-10-32. The 1515 was awesome for any type of flying and I'd recommend it to anyone.

However, I needed more power for lifting with my aerial photography business. This setup put me exactly where I need to be and I do not see a need for 10S on a TRex 600E (unless you like having power without limits):

1910/1Y
Kontronik Jazz 55-10-32 (although HV85 works well)
13T straight
Flightpower 8S/3700mah

www.louisianahelicam.com

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03-11-2008 07:45 PM  10 years agoPost 7
Ben-T-Spindle

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Central Illinois

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I'd just go to a 10s setup and be done with it...

get the Neu 1912/1y and run it on 10s 3700mah packs...you'll be grinning from ear to ear and forget all about 6s and 8s....
I tried that and you can really feel the extra weight. It has lots of power but just flies heavy. I regressed to 8s and like the way it flies much better.

The Neu 1910/1Y with a good battery and ESC is the optimum power system. But I’m sure that everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

... BTS

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03-11-2008 08:05 PM  10 years agoPost 8
Louisiana Helicam

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Exactly. I don't see the point in rigging a 600E for 10S. There are a number of other machines that are designed for this.

www.louisianahelicam.com

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03-11-2008 11:42 PM  10 years agoPost 9
docjoe

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Stockton, CA United States

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I've got a 6s and 10s TRex. On 6s, I'm using the 1515/2.5D and on 10s I'm using the 1515/2Y/H. The 10s 3700 is definitely heavier than the 6s setup but does have more punch and seems to be a little easier on both the motor and the batteries. You can feel the difference in the air. I just got my 10s up and running. I was waiting for my 1515/2Y to come back from Neu for the past few months so I was flying the 6s mostly. Definitely a different feel being heavier. I still haven't decided which one I like more now. I used to say 10s definitely. That was before I got the Neu 1515/2.5D on 6s (Previously using the 1650kv XL motor)

Joe
We haven't seen Colonel Angus around these parts for years!

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03-12-2008 02:04 AM  10 years agoPost 10
RSeeG

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Sydney, NSW

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Thanks for the valuable contributions....I get the feeling it is about "right sizing" for the 600E and it sounds like 8s is the way to go. I'll have to do a bit of investigating on battery options and weights....will keep everyone posted.

LJS....you setup sounds great...would be very keen to hear how it goes...

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03-12-2008 11:11 PM  10 years agoPost 11
PTCA

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Chico, CA

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I upgraded my stock 600 to 10S a few months ago. I tried HFX frames which were a miserable failure. Too much vibration. I went back to stock aluminum frames. The motor is a Neu 1515/2Y with an 11T pinion. I loved it. Power to spare. In governor mode the head speed never changed. I have since changed it to a CSM flybarless setup and it is even better. The power was great before, Now it is awesome! It flips and rolls much faster than my 450. I have a hard time lugging it down. Granted, I am nowhere near an accomplished 3D pilot but I am having fun with it. I can fly for 5 minutes and only take 2500 mAh out of the 3700 mAh packs doing flips, rolls, tictocs, rainbows, funnels, etc... The pack temp tops out around 105 degrees F. I could probably go 6 minutes without a problem but I like being nice to the batteries. I upgraded because I felt 6S was just too hard on the batteries with the Align motors. I have 70 flights each on my 3700 packs and they show no signs of reduced capacity or power. Ready to fly weight with the battery is 8 lbs, 1 oz. I have seen many 6S 600's which are close to that weight.

Chris

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03-13-2008 12:45 AM  10 years agoPost 12
Ville Erkkilä

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Oulu, Finland

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Ready to fly weight with the battery is 8 lbs, 1 oz. I have seen many 6S 600's which are close to that weight.
Flybarless sure does save some weight. My flybarless 6S Neu 1515H 600E weighs 3,35kg or 7lbs 6,3oz.

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