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03-09-2008 02:19 PM  10 years agoPost 1
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First I have to say I have no affiliation w/ this group your slamming.
They do nothing wrong there where they fly. I myself have several renegade fields around Palm Beach.
I stopped flying and being a member of Dyer for the simple fact that the club has gone to the dogs. This may be why your so bitter.
At least if or when they crash they are not taking the chance of taking out cars on busy Fl, turnpike or hitting people in their pit area . Where is the safety in that.
Grow up there is more respect for fliers at their field and organization than at Dyer I've seen it myself.
I hope them being Latin has nothing to do w/ your redneck thoughts.
Good day and w/ AMA I will fly anywhere I like including Dyer.
See you there.
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03-09-2008 03:06 PM  10 years agoPost 2
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My present mission is to solicit the AMA for information as how to corralle these fellows into the Public sanctioned club sites. They require fliers to have AMA membership in order to fly. When this goal is achieved I will rest easy along with the 200 plus members of the local public clubs. My point of the entire thing is simply that we as a club have fought to have and preserve the sites we have and really don’t need any negative influences on the County Board of Commissioners. The only way for that to happen is to provide the correct information to the flyers there. It breaks my heart to find out that several legitimate AMA members have abandoned the Club meetings and Field to attend these Saturday sessions. There is safety in numbers and chaos in numbers also depending on the view point. The bottom line is the location is convenient for a few that may or may not cause problems for the nearby drivers and residents, fortunately most fly electric so noise is not the problem but this unsanctioned site will go to the way side in a matter of time. It would be nice for a philanthropist to donate about 30 acres for a Heli Only site but it won’t happen for sure when a car, house or person gets hit. The Hobby Shop Proprietor that started the thing will wind up getting a cease and desist order shortly leaving the fellows wishing they were where they should be when it goes down.
Tom Jenkins
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03-09-2008 04:46 PM  10 years agoPost 3
Jeff polisena

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Let me start with I used to be the President of club that Tom is member of and the picture in above post is me . http://www.rcbushpilots.com/ I will try to explain the other side. What I'm saying in this reply has nothing to do with current board members they do a great job to keep club future alive .I stepped down because of the political rederic and disrespect to myself and my wife who was involved with all functions with dedication to my hobby .As far as AMA members going to club meetings has nothing to do with AMA its the club environment I tried to get all involved with club functions. There is a lot of lets do this but I dont want to help. I now fly at my private field that is not AMA sanctioned because of negative attitudes like Toms . The other field he is directing his negativity to is fine they have a group of people who do the best to keep things safe I have been there and some of the people there went there because of issues at Dyer ( irresponsibility in safety and negative gossip ) and if you go and see where they fly it is bigger flying area than Dyers heli area so BACK OFF and get facts before you bash . Also the road they fly next to is less traveled and visible than Turnpike where RC planes fly over daily . The homeowners dont complain ,they have permission to be there and they give back to community (TOYS FOR TOTS).I dont go to LHS that promotes this site but he is doing a positive thing for the heli environment and we do not need someone like Tom bringing a negative attitude we have enough already . You can have 100 or 1000 members but if you have no positive club enviroment you just have numbers . Now the next time said non AMA santioned club has a function I will donate to promote
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03-09-2008 04:57 PM  10 years agoPost 4
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How about my fellow pilots. Seems like Tommy is just another busy body sticking his nose in other peoples business. Your out of line.
Good Day

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03-09-2008 05:41 PM  10 years agoPost 5
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"some people....you just can't reach"

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03-09-2008 06:20 PM  10 years agoPost 6
ChrisT88

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Hey guys,

I have been reading and am not sure what to make of this. I have not personally seen this latest heli group together in action (although I have on occasion flown at the site in question before it became popular) but it sounds like everything is kosher in the safety department with the exception that the road is a little close but like someone points out it's no worse then Dyer park and the Turnpike which is a very major/high speed freeway vs the "bogus fields " 45 mph 4 lane road.

This is my view on the local scene. Since getting into this hobby with micro electric helicopters I have frequented Dyer park in the past and in recent years quite a few fun fly/competitions so I'm familiar with whats acceptable to helicopter-friendly crowds. My reason for quitting Dyer was easy...I don't like being told not to fly when a plane is in the air because of how aggressive I fly. Keep in mind that I always try to wait until the least amount of planks are in the air and I try to never get closer then the center line of the runway while making my passes (not following the circular CCW flight pattern like the plankers suggest I should). My next issue is being told to fly in the "heli" area with a porta-potty directly to my left, a cliff strait out in front of me and the airplane landing strip running directly at me just to my right. Finally past 3PM the sun is directly in your face.

To me it seems these guys are not only trying to tell me how/when to fly but now where? To be honest this does nothing but reaffirm my reasoning for not participating in the whole sanctioned local field deal.

No offense towards Tom but I refuse to change and I hope the other guys stick to their guns. I say we all meet next Saturday and fly our asses off....with safety in mind of course

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03-09-2008 07:10 PM  10 years agoPost 7
bstock

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Hummm... I read the other thread... and I guess I am getting ready to re- state the ovious... and what has been stated already by many.

I have to support their desire to fly at this field/ basin.

It sounds like the start of a club to me. With solid AMA members (with experiance) in attendance and in participation... I sense there is an established safety protocal that they fly by.

They have permission to be there... so that is covered.

They sound like they are a fun and happy group of pilots... and are lovin their time togeather. A happy group of heli guys... how cool!!

The only thing I see on the outside looking in... is that you may want to encourage the non AMA guys to get the insurance. I am not normally an "establishment" type of guy... but I could see you losing your site if something happens... and the insurance is not there to cover the Water District's liability. You don't need to be an AMA sactioned field for the insurance to still be effective.

Tom- no disrespect to you here... I have been reading your posts, and using your advise for years. You know your stuff... that is for sure!!

I just think you may be off on this one. It basically sounds like they just don't like that club. Maybe the club needs to address that?

Heli pilots are by norm independant thinkers... and flying in an old "good old boys, our way or the highway" club does not sit well with them (or anybody). Our club is a combo of plankers and helis... and we just plain don't allow the political BS seen in other clubs to affect our environment. We are well aware of the cause and effect it can have on a club.

We (heli pilots) are not treated as "the other guys". We are actually having a heli only funfly this spring... and everyone (plankers too) are chipping in to make it a success.

In our club, plankers out number heli guys - 5 to 1. But you watch... this hobby is growing fast - next year it will only be 4 to 1

Clubs need to keep that in mind, for their future success.

IRCHA 07 was the largest funfly of any type.

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03-09-2008 08:48 PM  10 years agoPost 8
Jeff polisena

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Well said

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03-09-2008 09:50 PM  10 years agoPost 9
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I believe Tommy needs to start taking pointers from you bstock. After all a good teacher was once a great student.
I liked the good old boy comment. I believe that's the start of this whole beef locally.

I would like to here Tommy's side now that he has a local view on it.
I sent him a PM w/ this thread so I know he read this.

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03-10-2008 12:29 AM  10 years agoPost 10
aceisback

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The Hobby Shop Proprietor that started the thing will wind up getting a cease and desist order shortly leaving the fellows wishing they were where they should be when it goes down.
Quote from the other thread. Sure way to get customers

This is pure comedy. We had a similar situation but with RC cars. We had a local RC Car guy that built a track and wanted to start a hobby shop at the track site (His Home). Anyway, the track sucked, and it wasn't worth paying to race there.

A few of us guys started our own track within the city behind a fellow RC Plane guys house whose son was into RC cars also.

Everyone around town started coming to our track and the other guy got mad and complained to the city zoning commission about our track location and that we were charging money to let people race.

Someone from the town council came out to see what all the fuss was about. When he saw what we were doing, he just laughed. Needless to say, the other track shutdown and the hobby shop never happened, but we kept racing at our track.

Tom, get a life or find a new hobby.

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03-10-2008 12:40 AM  10 years agoPost 11
Jeff polisena

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What is so funny is that the people Tom is talking about have the backing of County,City, police department and fire department and full permission to be on the property

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03-10-2008 01:06 AM  10 years agoPost 12
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What I am trying to figure out what is the point to all of this? so this tom person has a issue with some people who evidently have permission to fly where they are flying at. Why bring this all out for the rest to read and see? People that start trouble like that are just looking for attention bad attention is better then none ignore it dont even respond to his babble and he will go away.

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03-10-2008 01:24 AM  10 years agoPost 13
Jeff polisena

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Mutt I agree I myself had to defend all who he talk about because Im one of them and I also know Tom and this is typical. A new hobby shop opened and did not want to fly at Dyer for such reason so he found a way to start his own flying site and did a great job getting all the rite people involved and full backing and permission

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03-10-2008 01:33 AM  10 years agoPost 14
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Jeff polisena I hope things work out for everyone involved. I myself wish our club could get along these days but I do not see that going to happen in a while. Good luck have fun.

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03-10-2008 01:42 AM  10 years agoPost 15
Jeff polisena

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Wow! WE don't get it! You seem to be the one that stands out with your negative attitude to make sure no one gets to fly helis unless they do it your way! Your comment above pretty well confirms that you are more of a control freak using the theme of safety as way to promote your own personal agenda.
This says it all

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03-10-2008 02:03 AM  10 years agoPost 16
Carey

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History Says
Crusades rarely end well.

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03-10-2008 04:59 AM  10 years agoPost 17
Radron

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An extended hand..........
http://www.runryder.com/t415285p1/

What goes up must come down,Just why so damn HARD??

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03-10-2008 05:13 AM  10 years agoPost 18
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Thanks Ron I was just getting ready to do just the same thing.

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