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03-08-2008 07:38 AM  10 years agoPost 1
zachmccool

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Mississippi State, MS

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Hey everyone, I'm new to the forum but not new to the rc community. I've been flying RC Airplanes for about 1 1/2 years, and have been flying my Belt-Cp for just over a month. I have quickly learned why everyone at my club that have helis refuse to fly them, there holes you throw money into. However in the month of learning how to fly the heli I get more enjoyment out of hovering the heli the I do flying 3-d with my airplanes. I'm even thinking about getting rid of all but one plane and go strictly to electric helis. During my time learning how to fly (~5hr of stick time) I can hover tail in, do basic forward and side to side flight (all with tail in) and progressing quickly. I know that I still have a way to go before I reach the limit of what the Belt cp can do but I already want a larger more capable heli.

So my plan is to get a good heli radio (any suggestions? Thinking of the eclipse 7, RD8000, or the DX7) then build a 500 or 550 size heli. I like the T-rex 500 but don't like the price. I'm realy looking for something that can be set up, - the radio and preferably able to use 3s 2200 20c lipo packs, for right around $500-600. Any suggestions? Any help would be appreciated.

Sorry for the long first post,
Zachmccool

P.s. Will not have internet for the next week so please talk amongst your selfs and when I get back I will read the posts.

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03-08-2008 10:30 AM  10 years agoPost 2
scottc

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TT has the mini titian that is a artf heli, you just add the RX. thats less the 450.00 i think.

Hey I didn't ask for this fetish.!!!But I'am sure paying for it....

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03-10-2008 02:14 AM  10 years agoPost 3
HeliSmith

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lol talk amongst ourselves.

Trex 450 SE or SE V2 (25 bucks a crash usually)
DX7 (So you can run a Trex 600N later) x9303 2.4GHz if you can.
3 HS65MG servos for cyclic
Futaba 401 + 9257 with an Align step down
Lightning Power lipos x 6
CellPro 4S charger or Lightning Power has one I am eye balling too.
Phoenix Flight Simulator

When you can fly the Trex 450 in every orientation upgrade to 500 or 600 or 90 whatever. Until then keep the crash costs low, the rebuild time short and the sim time plentiful.

Team AmainHobbies/ProTek

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03-10-2008 05:25 PM  10 years agoPost 4
nmrs

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Trex 450 SE or SE V2 (25 bucks a crash usually)
DX7 (So you can run a Trex 600N later) x9303 2.4GHz if you can.
3 HS65MG servos for cyclic
Futaba 401 + 9257 with an Align step down
Lightning Power lipos x 6
CellPro 4S charger or Lightning Power has one I am eye balling too.
Phoenix Flight Simulator
I'm also just getting into this and this is exactly my purchase plan: 450 SE v2 outfitted as above with a DX7. You've left off the Rx. What do you suggest? AR7000? AR6100? So far I have the DX7 and Phoenix and was planning on the AR6100. Once I can hover in sim, will start ordering the rest of the bits, though I'm pretty excited about this, so I imagine the rest of the pieces will come in rapid succession.

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03-10-2008 07:11 PM  10 years agoPost 5
Dave M

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Buy new radio...it will come with a receiver. A 6100 is enough for a 450 electric bird.

It's OK....It's not your fault !!!

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03-10-2008 07:29 PM  10 years agoPost 6
Pyrock

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SF Bay Area

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Over the weekend, I was able to get some info on the Trex500 including crash costs and the like. Based on what I've heard, I would suggest going straight to the Trex500. All the parts are still cheap and within $1-$5 of the Trex450 costs depending on the part. Of course, the cheaper parts are around $1-$2 bucks more expensive with the more expensive parts on the higher end. I was told that it is much easier to fly as it flies much like a 50 sized bird. Believe it or not, the power-to-weight ratio is more than the 450. Seeing is believe and I saw it shooting around like a gnat and MUCH easier to see. Batteries will obviously cost a bit more but still much cheaper than the larger helis. All the lipo manufacturers are getting in on the game and making small 6s 2500-3000 mah lipos at reasonable prices. I have a Trex450 in an Airwolf fuse and I'm thinking of selling it to help fund a Trex 500. I think the 500 is still small enough to fly in a park while large enough to fly smoother. Just my $0.02

Trex 500, Stretched Logo 10 3D, Ion-X, Gaui 200

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03-10-2008 07:30 PM  10 years agoPost 7
Pyrock

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By the way, I wouldn't get anything less than a AR7000. Pay the extra $$ for piece of mind.

Trex 500, Stretched Logo 10 3D, Ion-X, Gaui 200

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03-13-2008 09:14 AM  10 years agoPost 8
JetFire

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The Golden STATE

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Food for thoughts...
I own the Futaba 7C FASST system and absolutely love it! Never owned any other brand to make a judgement of which is better, but I recommend this radio to anyone. The only complaint I have is the stock NiCd battery rated at 600 mah in which I replaced with a 2500 mah hydride. Now its perfect!! Binding is easy, and if you purchase with one of several servo packages, its already done for you. Different packages are available at Tower Hobbies with three easy pay options. Also, consider making the switch to nitro heli's for better run times. I’ve owned both… and after reviewing price differences it’s really worth the switch. Fuel is not cheap… but neither are high end LiPos that will give you the same run time. You mentioned that you previously flew airplanes. I’m going out on a limb here and assuming that you are no stranger to glow powered engines. The Trex you mentioned is expensive. I don’t recommend the 600 nitro to anyone new to the hobby anyway. However, research the Kinetic 50 by Helimax and see if you like it. It’s the same bird I currently own and is easy on the wallet. It comes in ARF form but as any heli pilot would tell you… tear it down completely and apply thread lock to all parts that apply and don’t assume its already been done for you. Anyway, I love it. Don’t let the size intimidate you. It’s much more stable than your micros and I’ve found most parts from the Century birds, like the hawk and the Raven, to be identical making upgrades easy. Choosing one of these birds is also an option but different in price cause most of the upgrades are already included. With the Kinetic 50, you can pace yourself. The manual is excellent and even goes over recommended throttle/pitch curves setup on Futaba radios. There are tips I can give to anyone interested on building this puppy to make assembly much easier.

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03-17-2008 07:03 AM  10 years agoPost 9
zachmccool

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Mississippi State, MS

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hey all, got back form my sailing trip. I had to order a new ESC for my belt-cp and after setting it all up a ran a battery pack through the heli doing basic forward flight and spins (perowets, SP?). When my battery was charging I took off the training gear and instantly noticed that the heli was much more responsive and less stable. I actually like it this way, keeps me on my toes.

As far as the comments above:
I am looking for a larger than 450 size heli. The belt cp is a 450 size heli and I would like for my next heli to be larger than this one. It is true that i am no stranger to nitro engines but since I am a college student and live in dorm rooms I would like to keep it electric. How good is the TT heli that tower hobby sails? can it do all of the advance 3d stuff?

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03-17-2008 01:21 PM  10 years agoPost 10
Dave M

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Mi.

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The belt cp I think is a 300 or so... a trex 450 is larger.

But what do I know.. I have neither....I'm a nitro man.

It's OK....It's not your fault !!!

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03-17-2008 03:58 PM  10 years agoPost 11
Pyrock

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SF Bay Area

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The Trex 450 is definitely larger than the CP. I would consider a Trex 500 since it is still small enough to fly where ever you would fly a Trex450 yet I hear it flies like a much larger heli. It should be able to hanle more wind as well.

Trex 500, Stretched Logo 10 3D, Ion-X, Gaui 200

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