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01-15-2009 03:44 PM  9 years agoPost 141
mlucia

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Any updates?

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01-15-2009 03:50 PM  9 years agoPost 142
m60e3

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February

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01-15-2009 05:38 PM  9 years agoPost 143
LonR

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Anyone know how much its going to be?

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01-15-2009 05:42 PM  9 years agoPost 144
phil evon

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Hopefully under 500. That would make it a very competitive kit.

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01-15-2009 06:05 PM  9 years agoPost 145
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geez
This thread is almost a year old and still no release. Ridiculous.

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01-15-2009 06:08 PM  9 years agoPost 146
phil evon

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tell me about it. im in the market for a new top shelf 50. ready to pull the trigger on one today.its gonna be the vibe if this thing isnt available soon.

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01-15-2009 06:50 PM  9 years agoPost 147
LonR

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fla heli boy geez

This thread is almost a year old and still no release. Ridiculous.
How is it rediculous?Cause they take there time to make sure EVERYTHING is right unlike the other brands that just slap somthing together so YOU can fix the problems.As long as its like the rest of the helis they make im willing to wait cause I wanna quality built heli.They take pride it there stuff and thats why there the best thats out there.

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01-15-2009 08:16 PM  9 years agoPost 148
BJames111

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Personally, I like the fact that MA takes the time to make their product right. I don't like when a company rushes their product to market and then YOU the consumer end up doing the beta testing.

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01-15-2009 08:29 PM  9 years agoPost 149
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I just called them and they are saying late next month on the new 50 and a couple of months after that for the 90. About the same thing they said when I called a few months ago.

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01-15-2009 08:35 PM  9 years agoPost 150
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[size=small]BJames111
Personally, I like the fact that MA takes the time to make their product right. I don't like when a company rushes their product to market and then YOU the consumer end up doing the beta testing.[quote]+1

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01-18-2009 03:16 PM  9 years agoPost 151
BJames111

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Looks like they are going to call it the Furion 50. very cool.

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01-18-2009 04:24 PM  9 years agoPost 152
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Sorry if the following ideas were stated already.

It seems that the cyclic servos are entirely exposed in the eventuality of a crash. To most of us this will happen within a flight season. With such nice bird you would put only the best servos for cyclic.

Also the battery and electronics are “in the open”. I hope that the way the canopy posts will be placed will provide the both protection for the frame and for the electronics.

I would wait first for reports about parts that are to be changed in most crashes.

Perhaps to best in this hobby is to go towards more and more flybarless kits rather than optimizing solid designs already on the market? I am not an expert in flying but I appreciate a robust design.

Bogdan

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01-18-2009 04:37 PM  9 years agoPost 153
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It seems that the cyclic servos are entirely exposed in the eventuality of a crash. To most of us this will happen within a flight season. With such nice bird you would put only the best servos for cyclic.

Also the battery and electronics are “in the open”. I hope that the way the canopy posts will be placed will provide the both protection for the frame and for the electronics.

Perhaps to best in this hobby is to go towards more and more flybarless kits rather than optimizing solid designs already on the market?
I'm confused, you're worried about breaking the servos and existing electronics, but you're okay with adding ANOTHER $400 or more worth of just as breakable electronics to make it flybarless?

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01-18-2009 05:02 PM  9 years agoPost 154
Knud Pedersen

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X-cell Furion 50

This picture is from the Runryder Marketplace on frontpage.

ChopperKnud
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01-18-2009 07:44 PM  9 years agoPost 155
Bogdan

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The issue of exposed servos stays regardless the fact that a helicopter is faybarless or not. Hope that I am wrong and the cyclic servos will not be shattered in a crash.

Carey_Shurley,
A flybarless design would make a kit say 10% cheaper than a standard design. Indeed, compared with an additional 400$ on breakable electronics would be almost insignificant.

In my last comment I was not writing about the costs but alternatives towards an IC helicopter that is really different as kit. Including electronics, a flybarless helicopter is somewhat more expensive at the beginning, but it can be more flexible in setting up (beginner, 3d etc.). Why not having both alternatives for IC helicopters as there are for the electric helicopters? It would be a nice challenge for the designers (that including protection for the electronics).

Coming back to my observation over the servos, if you ruin twice the cyclic servos during a lifetime of the helicopter you might get half way to those 400$ spend initially on an hypothetical flybarless set-up.

Best regards,
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01-18-2009 09:13 PM  9 years agoPost 156
Carey Shurley

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no question about the potential advantages of a flybarless setup. You had referenced the costs associated with damaged servos, so thats why I focused on costs.

I think there's still some more work to be done on the flybarless mechanisms for them to be more user friendly and consistent but the excitement of changing flight characteristics with the flip of a switch is something I'm looking forward to.

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01-18-2009 09:29 PM  9 years agoPost 157
fiordaliso

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Flybarless Systems are a relative young species.
We are right after the Big Bang.

E. g. Mikado`s V-Bar is a great system but showed deficiencies in some maneuvres caused by limited sensors. Tell a V Bar Logo flyer to make some rolls,one after the other. Or some rolling circle. And you see what I mean.

New systems hit the market, they get better and better. Evolution is on.

The masses will jump in when
- many Kits are available and more important,
- different "plug and play" configurations (from soft to aggressive) are offered withoutthe need for weeks of experimenting and changing multiple values.

I guess it is not far ahead. But anyway time enough to have fun with paddeled heads, because they actually are not that bad...

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01-18-2009 10:15 PM  9 years ago •• Post 158 ••
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I've got a slightly more fundamental problem with MA than worrying about flybarless or exposed servos.

I've heard MA are quite 'stuck up', only really giving there 'mates' the service 'normal' customers expect? I have also heard that the UK MA importer is also 'up his own a$$', big time!

But despite all these rumours I have heard, I am still willing to buy an MA 50. I had just one simple question to ask MA, as I don't know much about there history. So I sent a PM to MA.

The question was simply asking what is meant by some of the names given to there models. I was a little confused as it seemed there models had two names as well as there brand name MA, ie Miniature aircraft X-cell Stratus ?? I just asked what the X-cell meant.

NO ANSWER !!

So I sent a sarcastic PM thanking MA for taking the time to reply to my question. Still no reply.

The failure to answer my simple question only supports what I have heard about the 'stuck up' attitude in my eyes. You could now say to me that TT or Align would also not reply to me, but MA is ON runryder and does post !! Also, I thought MA were meant to be a caring family run business that took the time to help there customers??

Not seeing much help here so far

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01-18-2009 11:36 PM  9 years agoPost 159
mlucia

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Also, I thought MA were meant to be a caring family run business that took the time to help there customers??
They are and they do. Just call them. They are always happy to answer questions. From my experience.
They are not good about returning emails.

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01-19-2009 12:19 AM  9 years agoPost 160
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Rbush, you PM'D them? I do not know who you PM'D, but I know they are not on here much, if any. I bet if you emailed them or called they would answer. Geez, they are stuck up because you have not heard from them regarding your PM? Dude, get a life.

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