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03-06-2008 10:48 PM  10 years agoPost 1
dezertdog

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Bellevue, WA

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Well, inevitability is a bitch. I dug myself a nice new hole today at lunch with the 400 3D. I was out at an old airport turned dog park cruising around and doing some loops etc and got myself into a corner I couldn't get out of. It was me, a line of trees, or the ground so I hit the throttle hold and put it down as "gently" as I could. The nose dug in as the field is pretty grassy and it went over foreward.

Interesting thing about the Blade 400 I didn't know yet, the motor casing spins around the motor instead of having a spinning shaft. The canopy is toast and the battery was shoved up into the spinning motor case denting the battery and putting a nice new blue paint job on the motor stickers. I left the battery in the bed of the truck for the rest of the day, hope it still in once piece when I leave the office!

A quick inspection says that main blades, fly bar, spindle and grips are shot. I'll take it down tonight and post up some pics for anyone else with a 400 so you can follow along as I rebuild after my first crash.

Sigh.

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03-06-2008 11:36 PM  10 years agoPost 2
tonyn

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orlando florida

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first time crashes suck
nevitabily is truly a bitch. if you need any help getting her back in the air let me know

Flying

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03-07-2008 10:54 AM  10 years agoPost 3
RPMATLANTA

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Cumming GA

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LET THE REAL FUN BEGIN!!!!!
Dont feel bad! about two weeks ago I augered mine into the the ground nose first at high velocity! It was spectacular at how many small pieces the canopy could transform into. Amazingly enough it really wasnt that bad. New main shaft, feathering shaft, blade grips, thrust bearings, 1 cyclic servo, tail boom and flybar and that was it! It warmped a set of align carbon fiber 325s, stuck them in the ground like knife. I was able to massage them back to s descent state but I haven't tried them yet since I finished the repairs and started flying it again with a set of align 335. I too was worried about the battery but after five charges it seems to be fine! It sucked but it least it was a full blown crash that caused extencsive damage. The day before Christmas when I first received my 400 on my first 3rd flight it tipped over before lift off and stripped all three servos on cyclic! I almost got rid of it because I was so frustrated at how fragile it seemed to be, Im glad I didnt because it has realy helped me get into the building and set up of the hobby. Before I was letting someone else build all my stuff and now in the past few weeks I have completed my first nitro build and set up! AND I AM PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT MY NEW RAPTOR 90 3D, BUILT AND SET UP BY ME, HAS FLOWN!!!!!LOL!. And I owe the blade 400 rebuilds over the past couple of months all the credit for getting me interested in building my own! So get your parts and start having some real fun! Good Luck! And do not be afraid to ask for help! Folks here are more than willing!

Team Horizon Pilot
Take offs are optional! Landings are not!

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03-15-2008 07:40 AM  10 years agoPost 4
dezertdog

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Bellevue, WA

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Parts Everywhere
Has it really been 8 days? Time flies while my Blade does not. So tonight I had some free time and dug into the Blade to assess the damage. Oh what damage. Luckily I found some videos on how to tear down the head so that was fairly painless. I'm too tired right now to take pictures of the whole process, so we'll get straight to the parts list:

2x EFLH1446B Landing Skid
1x EFLH1445W Landing Gear Strut
2x EFLH1417 Main Rotor Blade Grip/Holder
1x EFLH1421 Spindle/Feathering Shaft
1x EFLH1473 Complete Hardware Set
1x EFLH1447 Main Shaft
1x EFLH1451 Main Gear
1x EFLH1425 Flybar
2x EFLH1415A Main Rotor Blade
3X EFLRDS75H Digital Sub-Micro Heli Servo
1x EFLH1481 Body/Canopy

Looking around online everyone wants $114.22. I am going to take my list to the LHS and see what they say. They matched online prices for the bird out of the box and I want to give them a chance at the parts too. I will probably invest in some metal geared servos, $50/crash in servos alone is insane.

Here's an interesting find. All the online guys are selling a B400 "crash kit" for $29.99 that includes main rotors, tail rotors, 1 main shaft and 1 tail boom. This seems like a deal at first until you realize that bought separately 2 main shafts, a main rotor set, a tail rotor set and 2 tail booms sell for $27.96. Beware.

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03-15-2008 12:17 PM  10 years agoPost 5
drunkkajun

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Greer, SC

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My first big crash set me back $96 in parts. My second rough landing set me back $3 so that was a move in the rihgt direction. Your parts list needed for repairs includes all the same things I needed as well. One way to save yourself $40 is to buy the gear sets for the servos (EFLRDS751). I would be 95% sure your servos are all ok, they just need new gears. The set is about $3 most places. I am not mechanical at all and I my Blade was back running in a couple of hours. Lots of small parts in the head so take your time and reference that video (I know I did). Good luck.

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03-18-2008 02:53 AM  10 years agoPost 6
dezertdog

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Bellevue, WA

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I went into the LHS to grab the parts and they didn't have any B400 stock in yet. I went and ordered them online, and when I went back two days later they have a whole aisle dedicated to B400 parts! No one locally has the servo gear set yet though (EFLRDS751) so I had to make a separate order from redrockethobbies.com for those. It's going to be into next week for sure before I get it back in the air...

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03-18-2008 03:24 AM  10 years agoPost 7
Wolfpackin

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Avon, CO

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I know it's a little late but check the contact info for the online vendors and find a site that is close to you.

I use HeliProz in MT.
If I order before 3PM on any given day the parts are here two days later.

Stock up on gear sets. It's an easy fix and only $3 as mentioned.
Not a problem IMO.

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03-19-2008 05:20 AM  10 years agoPost 8
dezertdog

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Bellevue, WA

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gears
The more I think about it the more I think I want to stay with the plastic gears. They wear into each other better and give you a cleaner backlash. I'd also rather break a plastic gear @ $3 than bend the assemblies it's connected to because the servo doesn't budge.

I'm in WA, I'll have to look into HeliProz...although with the massive B400 stock my HobbyTown USA has in now it may be a moot point.

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03-19-2008 06:22 AM  10 years agoPost 9
StevenT

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Dallas, GA USA

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The Spektrum gear set is the same as the Eflite gear set. I had trouble finding the Eflite gears, but the Spektrum gear set was plentiful.

Spektrum Servo Gear Set (DSP75)
[SPMDSP751]

Steven

Shhh, don't tell the wife.

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03-19-2008 07:23 AM  10 years agoPost 10
dezertdog

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Bellevue, WA

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I didn't know those were compatible! After a lot of seaching and finding "out of stock" around every corner I found them here and got 6 sets: http://www.redrockethobbies.com/E_F...p/eflrds751.htm

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03-26-2008 06:33 PM  10 years agoPost 11
dezertdog

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Bellevue, WA

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EFLRDS751
So even though redrockethobbies.com said they were in stock on their site, they are also back ordered on the EFLRDS751. I called up and talked to them and they said they hadn't heard about the Spektrum being compatible. They are the same price ($2.99) so I told him to ship me 6 of those (SPMDSP751). According to him they will ship this afternoon so fingers are crossed!

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03-26-2008 09:11 PM  10 years agoPost 12
rkramer

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Bismarck, ND

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keep in mind there are 'parts only' blade 400's on ebay now for $119. (no electronics/servos/motors, just heli parts)

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03-31-2008 04:30 AM  10 years agoPost 13
XtremeInk™

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mechanicsburg,Il-usa

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i use the spektrum gear set, they seem to be a bit tougher. i was flying in the yard tonight and got in my shadow and had a blade strike gettin' in on the ground and bent spindle,main shaft..... servos survived, eflight gears strip if ya look at 'em tho ...

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03-31-2008 06:08 AM  10 years agoPost 14
zaw

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Lebanon, NH - USA

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I just use Esky Servos they're cheaper work the same. They are almost identical with Eflite ones in different casing, I have a few open here.
After buying and breaking various type on servos on crashes I figure I just put some cheaper priced ones in there.

I never had good luck with fixing the digital ones but analog one after gear break I can replace. I do use a Spectrum Digital @ tail for digital mode.

EK2-0500 are the ones I use.

ಠ_ಠ HBK2 built with inexpensive parts! ٩๏̯͡๏)۶ Gaui425

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