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03-06-2008 05:29 PM  10 years agoPost 1
Isaac F

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Hey guys,

I am flying a Quicksilver Ultralight and I am interesred in getting a hand watch with altimeter.

My instrucctor has a Casio one but I want to ask you guys what watch brand and model yor recomend me that do no cost me a lot :-)

Maybe one that have more features that I can use while flying.

THX

Isaac

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03-06-2008 06:26 PM  10 years agoPost 2
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Why not just get a Garmin handheld GPS and a bracket to mount it to your airframe? That way you'll have not only an altimeter, but if you get lost in the fog you'll be able to find your way back home.

I can highly recommend the Vista or the Vista HCx Color.

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03-06-2008 06:30 PM  10 years agoPost 3
Isaac F

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Well, the thing i thats right now, I am just taking lessons and this UL does no have instruments

Isaac

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03-06-2008 06:48 PM  10 years agoPost 4
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A handheld GPS can be had for as little as $100, and would not only provide you with an altimeter (not as accurate on the lower-price models) but with lots of other useful info for flying, plus you can use it for other stuff too.

Ever heard of GeoCaching?

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03-06-2008 07:37 PM  10 years agoPost 5
Isaac F

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Hey GimbalFan, thx for the link...........going to check it

Isaac

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03-06-2008 07:43 PM  10 years agoPost 6
SSN Pru

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Geocaching rocks!!!

I haven't done it in a long time.

If you are looking for a good instrument with which to tell you altitude and other flight related stuff then Garmin hand helds are the way to go.

shoot my ETrex Vista will tell me my rate of decent!

If only you could make it tell you airspeed, then you'd be all set.

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03-06-2008 07:52 PM  10 years agoPost 7
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Yup -- Garmin makes good chit. Their entry-level units calculate altitude the same way (triangulation) they calculate long/lat, and are less accurate with altitude (+/-100ft) due to the acute angles involved. The Vistas and other mid- high-end handhelds have a built in barometric altimeter that's very accurate.

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03-06-2008 07:56 PM  10 years agoPost 8
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i'll second the Vista by Garmin. i baught mine from Gimbalfan a couple years ago. it tells you everything you would ever want to know. Altitude, decent/ascent rates, speed in what ever units you want, ETA, which way to turn, even as much as when the sun rises/sets. i could seriously go on for some time about all the information it will provide you with.

i take mine fishing so when we are out so far you cant see land, you can easily steer back to the exact direction you need to go to find the port, or even get yourself back to a good fishing spot within a couple meters, or even tell you how much your drifting even when the anchor is down.

i have strapped it to my heli and my friends RC cars to get a max speed.

i use it in my truck to help navigate my way around new places.

and of course Geocaching, thats pretty good fun.

considering what it costs (GPS service is free, not like ON-Star), you really cant beat it.

if you spend a little extra to get something like a Garmin Vista with a Barometer in it, then you can get very accurate altitudes. mine is sensitive enough that simply raising and lowering the unit up and down with my hand is enough for the barometer to pick up a pressure change.

or if you dont want something that complicated, you could even get a GPS watch by garmin. not as fancy, but it will still give you a lot of info.

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03-06-2008 08:05 PM  10 years agoPost 9
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a couple years ago.
How de time do fly, eh?

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03-06-2008 08:45 PM  10 years agoPost 10
RonHill

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Suunto Watches work great
I have friends that use these for skydiving. They work really well.

http://www.suunto.com/suunto/main/a...845524442490207

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03-06-2008 11:19 PM  10 years agoPost 11
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Most watches I've seen caution against using them as altimeters. I expect this is just legalese, but also some of them have quite a slow refresh rate - e.g. once every 10 seconds. This is fine for walking, but not when you're moving quickly. Presumably if people use them for skydiving, the SUUNTO watches don't suffer from this problem

GPS is not nearly accurate enough for use as an altimeter on an ultralight. GPS units with a barometric altimeter built in might be better.

You can get instrument packages for hang-gliders from about $200 that give you altimeter/variometer and would probably be far better suited to ultralight flying.

Flying in the fog would probably kill you, GPS or not. You need an artificial horizon to keep in straight/level flight. I think it's also very much against regulations.

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03-07-2008 04:00 PM  10 years agoPost 12
sincity

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Why not just look down to see how high you are? The most fun I ever had flying was a J3 Cub I learned in initially. Very few instruments, no distractions. Heck the fuel gauge was a metal rod sticking out the top of the gas cap! I loved that plane and will probably own one some time in the future. With the 90 HP conversion of course

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03-07-2008 04:03 PM  10 years agoPost 13
SSN Pru

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With the 90 HP conversion of course
Get a super Cub!

165 HP conversion...

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03-07-2008 04:24 PM  10 years agoPost 14
SilverEagle2

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I use a 496 WASS to back up my panel mount 300XL (tied to my encoder). Both are nearly spot on with each other. Course the new WAAS units have to be for IFR ops as approaches are tied to them (not the 496 BTW). Love the 496 for weather and terrain. Nothing like it. Course nothing like the price tag either.

I would recommend a good garmin over a watch anyday. Better, more accurate and keeps good track of where and what you are doing. I would pick up a 296 WAAS or the like.

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do...99&locale=en_US

Jason

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03-07-2008 07:27 PM  10 years agoPost 15
RonHill

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wlfk
Most watches I've seen caution against using them as altimeters. I expect this is just legalese, but also some of them have quite a slow refresh rate - e.g. once every 10 seconds. This is fine for walking, but not when you're moving quickly. Presumably if people use them for skydiving, the SUUNTO watches don't suffer from this problem
These also say not to use them for skydiving...But they do work. Some brands (such as the Nike) do not refresh fast enough. They claim 150 fps and freefall is about 176 fps. But for an ultralight 150fps is much faster than you would need.

Suunto also makes a dive watch. It says that it is not for decompression diving, but if you go into a deco profile it will display a decompression profile for you.

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03-08-2008 12:19 AM  10 years agoPost 16
Isaac F

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Hey guys, thx for your advise. This UL does not belong to me but when I get mine I will put all the gadgets :-)

I jus got a Casio Pro Trek with Barometer, Altimeter and Compass.
I will try it tomorrow morning.

Thx,

Isaac

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