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03-06-2008 02:12 PM  10 years agoPost 1
SteveH

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What we are talking about here IS NOT about politics and the differing views concerning issues.....this is about the potential literal destruction of this country by our enemies and our inability to defend ourselves against those attacks.

This is a very short (52 seconds) video by Barak Obama in his own words about how he plans to destroy our defense capabilities if elected. (See comments below regarding video if you do not wish to watch the video.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs

To sum up.....here are his proposals with comments:

.....I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems...(STAR WARS (SDI) HAS PROVEN VERY EFFECTIVE AS EVIDENCED BY THE ABILITY TO SHOOT DOWN THAT SATELLITE THIS PAST WEEK BUT THE DEMOCRATS FOUGHT IT TOOTH AND NAIL AS "UNPROVEN"

....I will not weaponize space...(WE WILL BE SITTING DUCKS IN SPACE INSTEAD OF UTILIZING OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS FROM THE SPACE PROGRAM TO DEFEND OURSELVES.)

....I will slow development of future combat systems...(JUST WHAT WE NEED....TO BE BEHIND OUR ENEMIES ON WEAPONS SYSTEMS)

....and I will institute a "Defense Priorities Board" to ensure the quadrennial defense review is not used to justify unnecessary spending...(HUH?)

....I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons...(GOOD LUCK GETTING N. KOREA, IRAN, RUSSIA TO ACTUAL KEEP THEIR PROMISES...THEY NEVER HAVE BEFORE)

....and to seek that goal, I will not develop nuclear weapons...(WE WILL BE SITTING DUCKS!)

....I will seek a global ban on ! the development of fissile material...(THAT MEANS WE WILL BE THE ONLY ONES OBEYING THE BAN)

....and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert...(AND HOW DO WE KNOW THEY WILL ALSO DO THE SAME)

....and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals...(GREAT! HOW ARE WE GOING TO DEFEND OURSELVES AGAINST NUCLEAR ATTACKS)

People, if he gets his way, we will become totally defenseless against Iran, North Korea, China and Russia et al. Please share this video with others to alert them to the dangers of his proposals. This is beyond disagreement on policies.....this is literally whether this country survives or not.

The government cannot give you anything without first taking it from someone else.

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03-06-2008 03:37 PM  10 years agoPost 2
sincity

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Anyone who thinks the president actually dictates our policies is just one step away from falling in the deep end. Every politician will talk a big talk until in office. At which point they'll promptly be told what to do.

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03-06-2008 03:37 PM  10 years agoPost 3
SSN Pru

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What he, as a president, wants to accomplish and what a president CAN accomplish are two different animals. It takes more than the decree of a president to get ANYTHING done in this country...

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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03-06-2008 03:38 PM  10 years agoPost 4
SSN Pru

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I can also say that any talk of affecting the military or downsizing it or decreasing spending sends votes to McCain...

good job obama

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03-06-2008 03:50 PM  10 years agoPost 5
krashtagain

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Just the way a liberal acts , try bullsh!tting their way out of a gun fight .

If you're not living on the edge you're just taking up space !

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03-06-2008 03:55 PM  10 years agoPost 6
SSN Pru

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just the way EVERY POLITICIAN acts!

they all bull**** us to get into office and then bend us over and give it to us hard after obtaining the office!

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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03-06-2008 04:04 PM  10 years agoPost 7
krashtagain

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A wise man once told me "Listen to umdpru he speaks the truth "

If you're not living on the edge you're just taking up space !

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03-06-2008 05:13 PM  10 years agoPost 8
SSN Pru

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Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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03-06-2008 05:32 PM  10 years agoPost 9
Rob_T

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So when do you stop spending money on weapons? The economy still hasn't recovered from Regan's spending spree.

There will always be a smarter bomb, a faster fighter plane and a new stealth technology. If you say you're going to buy everything then:
  • You bankrupt yourself
  • The next super fighter from Lockheed-Martin will cost 3 times as much as expected (because they know you'll pay for it...)
  • Your borrowing gives exactly the countries you're trying to protect yourself from power over your economy.

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03-06-2008 05:40 PM  10 years agoPost 10
SSN Pru

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So when do you stop spending money on weapons?
When you feel like being taken over by another country...

You honestly believe we need to STOP spending money on defense?

If so, thats absolutely absurd!

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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03-06-2008 05:46 PM  10 years agoPost 11
TwistedRotor

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Rob T,

Amen

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03-06-2008 05:59 PM  10 years agoPost 12
1stPlace

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The economy still hasn't recovered from Regan's spending spree.
I thought Clinton fixed that. Wasn't his economy the best in the history of the country?

Diejenigen, die nicht lernen aus den Fehlern der Vergangenheit bestimmt sind, zu wiederholen.

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03-06-2008 06:08 PM  10 years agoPost 13
krashtagain

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That fat nosed bag of sh!t from arkansas did'nt fix anything but an itch a fat chick had .

If you're not living on the edge you're just taking up space !

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03-06-2008 06:10 PM  10 years agoPost 14
1stPlace

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He fixed everything! Just ask the liberals here, they'll tell ya' how it is... BwaHaahaahaaaahaaahaahaa

Diejenigen, die nicht lernen aus den Fehlern der Vergangenheit bestimmt sind, zu wiederholen.

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03-06-2008 07:06 PM  10 years agoPost 15
Rob_T

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The economy still hasn't recovered from Regan's spending spree.
I thought Clinton fixed that. Wasn't his economy the best in the history of the country?
He was able to undo some of the damage, but the debt ratio never recovered to it's pre Regan level. So "the best economy in the history of the country" was unable to undo all the damage caused by one over spending president. Remember that.

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03-06-2008 07:21 PM  10 years agoPost 16
Rob_T

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So when do you stop spending money on weapons?
When you feel like being taken over by another country...

You honestly believe we need to STOP spending money on defense?

If so, thats absolutely absurd!
How many times over do you have to be able to kill the entire population of the planet for you to feel safe? You need to get a grip on that insecurity

Maybe "stop spending" was too emotional a term. Maybe I should have asked "how much is enough"? The point is that you can spend more money on weapons than you can afford, and still not have bought everything that's out there. So you have to say no to something.

According to some republicans I have spoken to, Regan's genius was that he bankrupted the USSR with weapons spending. How ironic that you now want to do the same to ourselves.

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03-06-2008 07:26 PM  10 years agoPost 17
SSN Pru

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How ironic that you now want to do the same to ourselves.
You are ASSuming something and attempting to put words into my mouth. Please don't.

I never said we need to go broke on defense spending...

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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03-06-2008 07:38 PM  10 years agoPost 18
Rob_T

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I never said we need to go broke on defense spending...
So you're prepared to discuss the idea of not spending all your money on defense. (This is good...)

So what exactly is wrong with another person being prepared to entertain the same discussion?

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03-06-2008 07:40 PM  10 years agoPost 19
SSN Pru

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Your post indicated that we need to stop all spending on defense.

Not that it needs to be scaled back.

And we hardly spend ALL of our money on defense...

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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03-06-2008 08:48 PM  10 years agoPost 20
Rev

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Correct me if I am wrong about the itch, but don't we have a military vehicle named after her. The Hummer

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