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03-05-2008 07:07 AM  10 years agoPost 1
"Cam"

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How many old designs fly really well?
How many different servos configurations can you have?
How much more stable or agile can a 3D heli get?

Helis don't go out of date. Only the servos, engines and gyros do.

I don't even believe transmitters go out of date because like helis, it's all a bandwagon thing.

If it's good it's good. Whenever it's released for sale.

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03-05-2008 07:38 AM  10 years agoPost 2
MJHiscott92504

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?
you making a point here?

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03-05-2008 07:52 AM  10 years agoPost 3
u.k. sailor

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I agree with the principle I think you are trying to make, but also disagree. I have a spectrum DX7 to replace my JR10X and see that has given me a noticable in flight performance improvement.
I also now have a Raptor 3D heli which is a return to a design I used a long time ago just retweaked, and think I will love this heli, despite the "high end models" I have enjoyed in between.
At the end of the day quality is nice and may help a heli to be reliable and last longer, and good design may make a model easier/quicker to work on. but the Raptor went together quick and easy without any issues and will be servicable enough for me, and i've yet to wear a heli out

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03-05-2008 12:09 PM  10 years agoPost 4
Turkana

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Yup very true.Good flying Helis will always fly well, no matter what age. And lets face it they all can outfly us.

Regards Pete

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03-05-2008 06:15 PM  10 years agoPost 5
Zaneman007

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How many old designs fly really well?
See first photo
How many different servos configurations can you have?
See second photo. And are you considering a 120 swash v. a 180 swash?
How much more stable or agile can a 3D heli get?
I take it you have never flown a HawkPro "3D KING?"
Helis don't go out of date.
Really, see the first photo, and let me know where you can get parts for this one?

Last question, What does any of this have to do with a one off heli? That is not being or going to be manufactured?

Sorry, just feel argumentive. Feel free to ignore.

P.S. I should probably give credit for the 1st photo, I copied it from slider46's gallery. The HawkPro is mine.

Old Guys Rule!

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03-05-2008 06:22 PM  10 years agoPost 6
u.k. sailor

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Turkana unfortunately very true, but the good point of that is I dont ever feel held back by my models

007 want an argument oooooooooops "are you packing" answer question before argument commences

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03-05-2008 06:24 PM  10 years agoPost 7
Zaneman007

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Not packing anything.

But, I do have a HawkPro that flys like crap. I'll sell it cheap. I have a Toki .40 engine to go with it also. I do consider it out of date the day I bought it.

Bring it on.

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03-05-2008 06:27 PM  10 years agoPost 8
Louisiana Aerial Imaging

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Of course helis go out of date. Just like anything else. Soon as they get rid of the clutch in these nitros/gassers every heli thats has a clutch will be outdated.

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03-05-2008 06:36 PM  10 years agoPost 9
Zaneman007

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Sailor,

Lunch is over, got to go.

Old Guys Rule!

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03-05-2008 07:17 PM  10 years agoPost 10
u.k. sailor

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007 go get a raptor 3d they are coming back into fashion and for what it is worth (not a lot) a friend had a Toki engine and found it very good (surprised me)
Hope lunch was good

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03-06-2008 12:42 AM  10 years agoPost 11
"Cam"

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Havn't flown but have built a hawk pro before!

I have owned and flown a Kysho Concpet with mech gyro and a flown a calibur 30. I would say they were out of date but would not say they are main stream helis any more.

My point was if a heli is a good design and flys well it will go on for years.

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03-06-2008 01:31 AM  10 years agoPost 12
RCHelicopterGuy

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Helis don't go out of date.
Cool! Maybe my DuBro Shark or my Sport 500 can be brought out of mothballs!

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03-06-2008 04:48 AM  10 years agoPost 13
Zaneman007

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Sailor,

I have two R50 SE's. I like em. They very fly well and are low maint.

The HawkPro is a paper weight. (out of date)

Engines, now they don't go out of date. Two stroke engines have been in this hobby longer than the helis.

But, I do feel that helis go out of date. I think you'll see more 140 degree swashes in the future, along with flybarless systems.

There will always be design improvements, and innovation. That is what makes an old heli obsolete. Not to mention, they just quit make parts for it. The Aurora is kinda backwards. Usually they make the heli then quit making parts. On the Aurora. They make the parts, but quit making the heli, (never got started).

Old Guys Rule!

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03-06-2008 04:58 AM  10 years agoPost 14
darksidedave

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Zaneman007,
But, I do have a HawkPro that flys like crap. I'll sell it cheap.
You might try bolting on a tailboom and plugging in a couple of wires,then your ready for some MaD3dEEzE

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