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03-06-2008 05:44 AM  10 years agoPost 21
rroback

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Because mac has great quality hardware. Most pc's these days are plastic pieces of crap. My macbook pro isn't light, but it feel solid, and built to last, unlike a laptop like a sony vaio. The best quality pc laptops seem to be thinkpad's, but those are tanks. I currently have os x reliability, and the option to run any windows program. I currently have a mac pro for my editing, a macbook pro, and just got a macbook air. I'm likely going to sell, or give my macbook pro to my brother though, as the air is the perfect mobile machine for me, and I can just rely soley on my mac pro, which is no problemo.

Rhett..... I can't fly, but the Profi sure can.

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03-06-2008 05:55 AM  10 years agoPost 22
duff

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I agree its definitely better then a sony. The MAC notebooks do have downsides.

1) price VS power not so good
2) overheat alot that will even cause burns on peoples legs
3) out of warranty replacement parts are very expensive.
4) no accidental damage warranty

The upsides?

1) Mac OSX is a much more powerful OS VS Vista (Tried and True)
2) They look very sharp
3) Easy to learn
4) North American Company (Made in China)

It really depends on what OS you plan on using. Windows? get the Asus MAC OSX? the MAC. If you want to really get crazy you can get the Asus and put MAC OSX on there but it will be a driver nightmare as Steve Jobs did not intend the OS to go on PCs.

Just a few key points... we can go all night with more

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03-06-2008 05:57 AM  10 years agoPost 23
duff

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oh and working on a mac (Servicing) is a real PITA. Its like a German car... very high performing but everything seams backwards.

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03-06-2008 06:02 AM  10 years agoPost 24
rroback

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What work do you need to do? There's a great parody of the macbook air, where the guy is pissed that you can't upgrade the ram. I mean, everyone wants to upgrade the ram everyday. I'm not sure if you're into juggling laptops, but I don't need to service my computer. I tend to leave it on, plugged in, and occasionally put it to sleep. I sometimes delete old files, does that count as servicing? My laptop gets warm, but not close enough to burn my legs. I'd be scared. they did have a battery recall, so perhaps that is what you are referencing. I suppose it's better then a dell bursting into flames. now that would start a game of hot potato.

Rhett..... I can't fly, but the Profi sure can.

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03-06-2008 06:07 AM  10 years agoPost 25
duff

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They do a bad job with thermal paste. I mean repairing not upgrading. I was a service tech for a few years for Apple and PC so I guess I see it all. Dont get me wrong though, this kinda stuff happens to PCs as well. Just working on most PC notebooks was better setup when performing repairs.

As far as reliability of internal parts goes, they are the same as PCs so there is a 1 in 4 chance you will be brining it in for repairs or even doing repairs after warranty is expired.

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03-06-2008 06:09 AM  10 years agoPost 26
duff

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oh and by the way sony made both packs for dell and apple... both were flaming up. Again you can see how apple and PCs have the same parts and reliablity

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03-06-2008 06:13 AM  10 years agoPost 27
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Another Vote for a Macbook Pro.

For photo critical work this has one of the few screens that calibrates close enough for my taste.

From the photography side of things go take a look at a pro shoot and check the apple to PC ratio out, you wont be able to find a PC in site

I edit full HD on my MBP with no problem though it is spec'd out with 4 gigs of ram and a 7200rpm 200gig HD.

I also have an ASUS notebook (screen is horrible!) and a Toshiba Qosmio that actually was a great machine but was a tank at 12lbs. The Mac is faster then either, battery lasts longer, and the screen is nicer.

Check out this thread:

http://www.runryder.com/t386954p1/

Tabb

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03-06-2008 11:54 AM  10 years agoPost 28
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The HP's, Toshibas, Sonys, Dell's all must have some unique intrinsic value to stay in business out there, eh?
Oh no! Using logic on this forum... unheard of.

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03-06-2008 12:41 PM  10 years agoPost 29
syon

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depends on what you want to do but....
I've several laptops that i use, none of them are macs, however, the one i use for downlink recording is basically a 1.2 ghz processor, 512mb ram, with an ATI graphics built in, and it has its own processor as well as Vram of 256mb.
i picked it up at fry's for 399.99 about a year ago, and can say it has yet to fail me.
Normally here is how i work the video /photos-

Downlink everything to the laptop's hard drive, when i get back to the office, i upload everything to the desktop for editing.
It makes sense to do it this way for me, since if anything happens to the laptop, its on the desktop, and vice versa.
Graphic editing depends wholly on the software you use, and the quality of the video that you captured.
The deshaker software are not something you want to use unless you really are trying to make a fast buck, and give the client the short end of the stick.
If you heli is putting in alot of vibes in the video, i would suggest a revisit of balancing everything, maintenance of the entire heli, and also, install vibe isolators to minimize the vibration.
In short, it doesn't matter what hardware you use as a laptop, what matters is the software.
I found this out the hard way, clients will scrutinize every still shot, every frame in a video, and they look, believe me, they look with a fine tooth comb for anything to give reason to pay less.

You should be focusing on getting the heli vibes nearly eliminated (if using nitro or gassers) or go with a turbine, which will certainly eliminate 90% of the video vibes you see.
IMHO, it doesn't matter what laptop you use, as i have everything from the 199.99 special all the way up to 2499.00- believe me, its the software.
go with what you can afford...

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03-06-2008 03:35 PM  10 years agoPost 30
TCGliderguy

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Oh yes... I forgot to mention another thing about the Macbook Pro's... which comes close to bringing up religion or politics...

You have a choice of a glossy or matte finished screen. And there are heavily armed camps on both sides defending their point of view on this subject. To me, it really doesn't matter that much. I think both versions look great......

One accessory item that I bought for my Macbook Pro is a really well made, snap on rigid plastic cover. It stays on the machine all the time....snaps on with two halves for the top and bottom. It protects the aluminum case from scratches and scuffs... and protects it well from the gorilla at the airport who wears the TSA shirt....

-Taylor

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03-06-2008 05:57 PM  10 years agoPost 31
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IMHO, it doesn't matter what laptop you use, as i have everything from the 199.99 special all the way up to 2499.00- believe me, its the software.
I can’t make any sense out of this statement. There surely is a difference between a $200 laptop and $2500 laptop. For instance you won’t get Pro-E to run a $200 laptop and it is likely going to be a dog on a $2500 laptop. So the software you choose will dictate what hardware you need no matter who makes it. That is why I asked the question, “What do you want to do with this laptop?”

The purpose of a laptop is mobility. It will never have the performance of a desktop that has similar guts. They heat up and when they heat up they slow down. Many will fall to their knees if you start to push them really hard.

I have never own a laptop, although I use one at work (Dell Latitude). But I can’t see spending $2500 for a laptop when an $800 desktop will do the job better. Anybody can fix a desk top. Almost nobody fixes laptops unless you are a corporation with a maintenance contract. People tend buy new ones when something goes wrong with a laptop
Downlink everything to the laptop's hard drive, when i get back to the office, i upload everything to the desktop for editing..
If you didn’t purge your hard drive on the lap top from time to time you would choke it to the point that it would run like a 286. The more data you put on a hard drive the slower it runs.

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03-06-2008 08:19 PM  10 years agoPost 32
syon

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it does make a difference-
i run catia, pro-e and solid works 2006 on the 399.99 computer, while everyone else runs it on system that cost over a grand...

its all in the OS, ram and the Vram...
if it don't work on your laptop, then you are lacking in one of the 2- ram or Vram... its just that simple...

it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what it is saying on the software package as far as requirement- at least try to match up what you have with what is available for what you have as far as software.

To the fellow that has issues with running Pro-E, my guess is your laptop or desktop did not meet the minimum requirement needed to run...
unless you got a bootlegged copy of it, then theres even more reason why it will not run on your computer...

Get real, i've heard every scenario, worked thru them all, you do not need a high end system to accomplish something so simple.

As far as purging, i always save the video onto a spare networked drive, and i keep it in archive, it never stays on there longer than 1 week.
And if you are running maintenance on your computer as it should be done, it will not slow down, as everything is kept nice and orderly.
if its slowing down to 286 speed, then i would say laying off the visitation to questionable website is something that should be on the forefront as far as ensuring that your computer does not end up with errant "loaded" activeX scripts....

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03-06-2008 09:11 PM  10 years agoPost 33
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Another MacBook Pro vote for me.
Just returned from a still picture shoot (ground) of a Sony Play Station commercial, and I counted seven Macs and two Red cameras... not a PC to be seen?

FB

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03-06-2008 09:39 PM  10 years agoPost 34
Load Factor

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And another Happy MBP user! It's Tabbs fault!

Tanner

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03-07-2008 02:32 AM  10 years agoPost 35
TCGliderguy

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>And another Happy MBP user! It's Tabbs fault!<

Hey... I want some of that blame. I get blamed for everything! :-)

-Taylor

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03-07-2008 04:34 AM  10 years agoPost 36
Load Factor

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OK Taylor...(As I sit here on my wife's new Mac Book).... It's your fault too!

On a weird note... I'm watching Nightline and a guy working for Microsoft for 15 years went from Michael to Megan!.... so switching to a Mac is a good thing!

Tanner

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03-08-2008 03:56 PM  10 years agoPost 37
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I also forgot to mention... there are alternatives to Parallels for instant switching between Mac OS X and Windows.

One very popular option, which appears to run faster than Parallels is VMWare Fusion.

Here's a link to an interesting comparison of the two on Wikipedia...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compar...rallels_Desktop

I may take a look at VMWare Fusion for my own Macbook Pro. I believe that you can use it.... and still boot with Bootcamp. The Bootcamp option is always going to give the best performance, but the VMWare option provides convenience, if you need to bop back and forth between platforms.....

-TC

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03-08-2008 07:46 PM  10 years agoPost 38
rroback

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I'd say it depends on what you're doing, but parrelels does run great on my macbook pro. I use it for helicommand software, cc software, and I've got to find my realflight cd's, and then we'll see how well it really runs.

Rhett..... I can't fly, but the Profi sure can.

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03-09-2008 07:38 PM  10 years agoPost 39
TCGliderguy

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FWIW.... the FS One Simulator choked and gagged, and basically turned into a slide show on my 2 gHz MacBook Pro... under Parallels. From my experience, FS One is less "computer demanding" than RealFlight.

FS One... and now Phoenix... both run fine with BootCamp....

-Taylor

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