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03-05-2008 12:08 AM  10 years agoPost 21
Dilbeck

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I think all you guys have some great ideas and have captured some of a few to try out, i will post what worked and did not work for me for i have and am still flying with no problems in any other orientation except this one. I think for me its a mental thing and with the help of you guys will get it right...

Clint

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03-05-2008 12:57 AM  10 years agoPost 22
BladeRex

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I still haven't mastered nose in but I'm comfortable, don't crash because of it and usually don't make mistakes while doing it (still need more practice as I still have to think about the controls at times but other times it comes naturally). A couple of things I did help me get my head inside the heli so I'm thinking I want the heli to go right not to my left while nose in or any other orientation for that matter. First thing is I have a lot of surface RC experience w/ boats and cars and only a little w/ planes from when I was younger so I found a place I could also fly bellow where I was standing, this helped me a lot. Doing figure 8's, starting w/ tall skinny 8's working into short fat ones. Also don't forget good old nose hover practice (this one didn't seem to help me get my head into the heli and I had think about the controls being backwards).

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03-05-2008 04:54 AM  10 years agoPost 23
SpottedCow

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You could always put a BIG - L and R on the nose of your canopy..

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03-05-2008 05:46 AM  10 years agoPost 24
TaleGunner

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once you have tried all the great ideas (and there are some great ones) and the gimmicks, practiced on the Sim till you monitor blew there is only one way to get it. STICK TIME,STICK TIME,STICK TIME,STICK TIME,STICK TIME,STICK TIME,STICK TIME,STICK TIME,STICK TIME,STICK TIME, AND MORE STICK TIME

Until you dont need to think about it your thumbs will just do it.

You will get it!

CRASH! GLUE! REPEAT!
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03-05-2008 07:23 AM  10 years agoPost 25
Sam2b

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once you have tried all the great ideas (and there are some great ones) and the gimmicks...
What is an example of a "gimmick" learning idea?

_Sam B_

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03-05-2008 09:27 AM  10 years agoPost 26
MolokaiBoy

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what helped me was to use the sim alot, fly parkflyers, but what helped me the most was when in nose in I push to the side I want to lift on my heli

hope that makes sense

Les
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03-05-2008 11:17 AM  10 years agoPost 27
Ray Fernandez

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I started out as a plank flyer many moons ago and when I transitioned to helis, the same concept of "low wing" applied. Simply push your aileron stick towards the same side of the disc that is dropping when the heli is flying towards you, to level off.

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03-05-2008 04:01 PM  10 years agoPost 28
TaleGunner

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What is an example of a "gimmick" learning idea?
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Like putting a big L & R on your canopy

When I was learning the basics it all came down to stick time. I did everything everybody said to help with oriantation, fly the canopy, fly the blades, push up left down right except when XXXXX ya Know I before E except after C And all that help was great becouse by doing all those things I was getting stick time and one day it all went click and now I just fly I don't think about my thumbs I just look at the heli and fly it.

CRASH! GLUE! REPEAT!
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03-05-2008 04:51 PM  10 years agoPost 29
Dakine

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One main thing to keep in mind, it's only a toy helicopter....have fun while you're learning. With time, you will improve. There's no rush other than, personal goals and challenges. Don't worry about others.

Have fun!

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03-05-2008 05:37 PM  10 years agoPost 30
Dave M

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it's only a toy helicopter
Well them theres are fightin words.......

It's OK....It's not your fault !!!

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03-05-2008 06:22 PM  10 years agoPost 31
Steff Giguere

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Funny but I'm ok when the heli is in flight but have more problems hovering nose in. On the sim I don't have problems with nose in hover....well someday I will be ok.

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03-05-2008 09:04 PM  10 years agoPost 32
Dilbeck

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steffgiguere my problem exactly, Think its a mental thing.

Clint

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03-06-2008 01:03 AM  10 years agoPost 33
Dilbeck

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Ok said i would report back and here it is..As much as it made me feel like a newbe again i attached the training gear and took off, spun around to a nose in hover, flew like i had been doing it for years!!! Felt very confident and didn't even have to think about it, it just came natural. This leads me to believe its a physiological thing in my own mind. Take the gear off and get sooo nervous i could not even fly. Something like a harness attached to you 500 feet of the ground your fine and walk the plank but once you take it off you panic and cant move. Think ill keep practicing so as to get the feel and soon maybe ill be ok.

Clint

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03-06-2008 01:04 AM  10 years agoPost 34
TaleGunner

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If I could fly in real life like I can on the simulator I could get a real Sponsor I remember the day that nose in hovering clicked for me I thought I had won the lotto for a week.

CRASH! GLUE! REPEAT!
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03-06-2008 01:15 AM  10 years agoPost 35
Dilbeck

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Its more difficult then most people will lead you to believe, Sometimes is just a fear factor like being scared of heights. its crazy, I've got to get past this for its driving miss daisy, i mean driving me crazy!! Well theirs always tomorrow..

Clint

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03-06-2008 01:22 AM  10 years agoPost 36
Yug

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Dilbeck - sounds to me like your brain is getting in the way when your greatest fears are challenged. Try to get outside the 'box'.

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03-06-2008 01:53 AM  10 years agoPost 37
Dilbeck

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Yes I've bungeejumpen of bridges an parachuted out of airplanes and the box is closing in on me but have a box knife and will cut my way out somehow!!!!

Clint

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03-06-2008 02:25 AM  10 years agoPost 38
TPMX

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Nose In
Nose in has been the hardest thing for me to grasp.
I am on my 4th gallon of fuel and am just now starting to get comfortable with nose in.
I have a sim and can fly any way I want even inverted but its not the same as the real heli.
I learned more on nose in in the living room on a cx2 than the sim.
I crash the 2nd time nose in,the first attempt went perfect but the 2nd i got messed up and was too low to save it.
I just concentrate on flipping the tail around as soon as anything isn,t right and all of a sudden things make since.
i don,t understand why our brains have so much trouble with helis!
I want to try forward flight coming at me next but it will take awhile.
I can fly forward looking at the side but have not tryed nose in forward.
I was really getting frustrated with my flying than 1 time out things seemed to start clicking.
When I was learning fixed wing I thought how hard it was and that I wasn,t making any progress but the heli is hands down harder to learn.
I was told to just keep at it and it did pay off.
Just keep at it and you will get it.

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03-06-2008 03:00 AM  10 years agoPost 39
philthewrench

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Hehehehe...
Like putting a big L & R on your canopy
Don't laugh at me!!! I painted the right side of my first canopy red and always remembered "right red, right red, right red".

I know it sounds really stupid but my slow little brain needs all the help i can give it

Phil

... and now my impression of a lawn dart .......

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03-06-2008 04:17 AM  10 years agoPost 40
Sam2b

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Once you get it programed in your brain, you may actually prefer nose in. Frankly you can see it better. I do.

_Sam B_

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