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03-04-2008 01:06 AM  10 years agoPost 1
MWALKER

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How come there isnt a "standard set-up" for radios/helis? I have a Futaba 9C, a GY401, and a Raptor 30 with a TT39. There should be something that says Set your throttle to this... set your pitch curve to this, set your gyro up this way yada yada yada. Now ive been to Raptor Technique.com and it was very helpful but im looking for something that is so basic a monkey or myself could just punch the numbers into the radio and just go fly. Maybe if any of you are running this same gear, you can "share your notes" and tell me how you have your radio set up ex: Throttle curve 40,48,85,100.
Thanks for the help!

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03-04-2008 01:41 AM  10 years agoPost 2
Steff Giguere

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Because no two helicopters have the same set-up and no two pilots likes the same set-ups.

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03-04-2008 01:53 AM  10 years agoPost 3
MWALKER

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A Raptor30 is a Raptor30 is a Raptor 30 right? And as far ast two pilots not liking the same setup- if youve not flown a heli before how do know what kind of setup you like? I just want a basic beginner setup for a raptor30 with a 9C.

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03-04-2008 02:20 AM  10 years agoPost 4
jking

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yes a raptor 30 is a raptor 30 but two different people put them together.they could have the linkages differrent.many things could not be exactly the same.

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03-04-2008 02:27 AM  10 years agoPost 5
MWALKER

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well then, let me ask this- what is the best way to set this rig up? Guys, im lost! Ive flown it already but someone at the field set it all up, I didnt know what questions to ask, but he also just ran through it all so fast without explaining any of it. How do I get going?

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03-04-2008 02:28 AM  10 years agoPost 6
idigrc2

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There's to many varibles with servos and how the heli is setup. It's part of the hobby to learn how to setup throttle and pitch curves. Find a experinced pilot the can so you the right way or. Watch Ray's Authoritative DVD series to get you going in the right direction.

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03-04-2008 02:32 AM  10 years agoPost 7
MWALKER

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ya I have Rays DVD and book. H is using the JR radio and im using the Futaba. He also goes WAY too much into heli theory, dont you think? Im the new guy on the block. Do I really need to learn theory?

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03-04-2008 02:36 AM  10 years agoPost 8
idigrc2

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A lot of the stuff he does you need to take with a grain of salt, but there are a lot of good points that he covers. If you learn the theory behind why things are setup and done it makes learning alot eaiser.

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03-04-2008 02:37 AM  10 years agoPost 9
Steff Giguere

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Sorry to say but you are going to have to read and understand your user guide to your heli and to your transmitter. You could also ask someone who has the same transmitter as you for information one step at a time to get to know your radio and settings slowly.

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03-04-2008 03:09 AM  10 years agoPost 10
MWALKER

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Ahhh... steffgiguere, you take all the fun out of it. You mean I hafta read? haha- thanks! No but really, I have read, I have watched. I think I just need the hands on "show me" how one on one coaching with this I guess.

Thanks for the tips

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03-04-2008 04:14 AM  10 years agoPost 11
wannabfishin02

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There is an overwhelming amount to learn about radio's, servo's, transmitters, motors, etc. etc. etc. But having someone work with you hands on will help alot, and even then, it takes time, and work. It isn't much fun at first to learn all of this, I myself anyway went through the I just wanna fly it stage early on, but working on your heli and figuring things out, and adjusting things to your liking will grow on you, and eventually be part of the fun. Im sure there are some very "basic" numbers to be had with your particular setup, but to fully appreciate things and avoid any doubt, you should try to locate someone to help you along and maybe take you under their wing to get you the basic knowledge you will need. Good luck and have fun

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03-04-2008 04:51 AM  10 years agoPost 12
Lamar Cooley

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How Come
MWALKER,
Here is something for you. Check out "helifreak".
Mr. Bob "Finless" White has setup videos for several helis as well as some gyros and other items of interest.
I would direct you to first check out the Trex 450 SE build video.
This particular video was an invaluable aid to me when I first got into helis. An added bonus for you is that "Finless" also uses the Futaba 9C (it could be 7,not sure)to set up the Trex.
I hope this is of some small help.
Regards


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03-04-2008 05:13 AM  10 years agoPost 13
OK HELI

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Billings, Montana - USA

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the best thing that helped me with pitch and throttle curves was just going out and changing the numbers and seen what happens. no one showed me how i just set my radio to what it said on raptortechniques then started playing with it. and ive figured out how to change my hover points and headspeed in 1 day just playing, and everytime your bringing it to a hover and checking the settings your still gettting valuable stick time and still learning to fly.
IMO

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03-04-2008 04:01 PM  10 years agoPost 14
Skarn

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Pasadena, MD

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There are definitely some basic suggestions to get you started.

For example, set up your normal mode pitch curve so that at full negative, you nave between -2 and -1 degree of negative pitch. Unfortuantely, you'll have to use a pitch gauge to determine that...but as Finless points out it's "roughly" 40 for point 0. Put 50 in for the middle point. The 2nd point should be halfway between point 0 and point 3. The remaining points should be linear.

For example: If 42degrees gets you -2deg pitch at full negative, your pitch curve would look like this:

42,46,50,75,100

For Throttle Curves, it really is what you prefer, but again as a starting point, you could set it up like this:

0,50,80,90,100

Hope this helps.

Good luck!
Skarn

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03-04-2008 10:41 PM  10 years agoPost 15
Way2slow

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Jeffersonville Ga

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I can only say you've got a lot to learn and it's frustrating as hell if you don't have a mentor to help you. I've only been doing them approx four months and basically on my own. I started with a Blade CP Pro so I didn't have to learn much about the radio and it still took me about a month to start understanding what was required to set up the heli. I already had a Futaba 7CAP radio for my granddaughters Ultra Stick so I was a little familiar with airplane side of the radio. Then I got a Heli-Max K-50 and used the 7CAP with it. Even though I had some experience with the CPP and some with the radio, it was almost like starting all over again. I recently built me a Trex 600N Pro and bought a JR 9303 radio, guess what, it's like starting over again. It seems to never end so you had better find a heli friend or do a hellava lot of reading.

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03-04-2008 11:45 PM  10 years agoPost 16
Pyrock

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SF Bay Area

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I think Skarn put it the simplist. In all honesty, if it was as simple as 1-2-3, then everyone would be flying helis because they were as easy as setting up planes or cars. What you are running into is what seperates the heli folks from all other RC hobbyists. It's relatively complicated to learn everything thing it takes to fly, takes a good chunk of $ to get you going, and a good chunk of $$ when you crash.

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03-04-2008 11:47 PM  10 years agoPost 17
trickytiker

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england

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i agree with NWALKER i am dyslexic so reading instructions and manuals
is very dificult for me, i build from pictures more than the writen word we dont have any expert heli flyers to get info off at our club.
i have found out the hard way by trial and error . i now set gyros and repair helis for some of the newbys at the club
ps forgive any spelling mystakes

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