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03-04-2008 01:43 AM  10 years agoPost 21
slider46

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That might be the next challenge from burlyman. After the hovering in the box is finished....

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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03-04-2008 01:45 AM  10 years agoPost 22
toolman18

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nose in the box
Yeah nose in in the box. Esky is gonna make a killing this week.
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03-04-2008 01:54 AM  10 years agoPost 23
slider46

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Maybe everyone should just order parts now so there is no delays or excuses for the next video roudup.....

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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03-04-2008 02:14 AM  10 years agoPost 24
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Some one taught me a handy trick to nose-in. If the heli is facing you (nose-in) just remember to keep the right stick under the low side of the heli. For instance, if the heli is moving to your left (its right) moving your stick to the left or "under the low side" of the heli will correct. Same goes for front to back, if the heli is nose down moving the stick down or "under the nose" will catch it. I don't know if this makes any sense but it works like a charm on the sim and I'm just starting to use it in real flight.

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03-04-2008 02:19 AM  10 years agoPost 25
toolman18

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Hey
That sounds good. What i am doing now is:When the heli gets close to something bad(wall) I push toward the wall or the danger. That in effect pushes the heli away from the danger. I do it with out thinking about it now. Now i want to move it around on purpose at nose in.
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03-04-2008 02:22 AM  10 years agoPost 26
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he's a little nose in with a nose in landing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1bKiEJAEeA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBWFt3e6hfQ

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03-04-2008 02:28 AM  10 years agoPost 27
toolman18

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Fender
You da man. I know you have some tips or tricks to help learn nose in. I already know one. fly fly fly.
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03-04-2008 02:55 AM  10 years agoPost 28
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what I did was get really comfortable with tail and side in...then get the heli up high and try nose in....have your left thumb(thumb/fingers)ready to go...when you feel it getting away,swing it back to tail in and get control....repeat as necessary.......one second of nose in becomes two...then 5, then 10 seconds....once you start to breath again during nose in..it will happen...its just like everything else...takes time, patience, and relax......remember getting your first actual hover...at first it seemed so hard..then its second nature...if you have a sim...practice there to get the stick control...then try it for real....lots of guys cheat and start doing flips and loops before they can nose in...thats a recipie for disaster....once you can do nose in....everything opens up...because no matter what you are doing you can stop the heli and regain control.....I spent the whole summer of 07 really mastering hovers in all directions(yes, a little boring,and guys flying less time than me were flipping and looping) and its paying off big time now as things are really starting to "click"...once I'm done having fun with the contest vid(deadline tomorrow )...I'm gonna do a new HBK flight vid to show what I mean

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03-04-2008 03:01 AM  10 years agoPost 29
toolman18

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video
I want to see that video. I agree with you 100%. Im spending a ton of time in the hover. I know it will pay off now. Thanks
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03-04-2008 03:07 AM  10 years agoPost 30
slider46

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I toatally agree with Fender, spend the time on the basics and the rest will just come to you with very easily... Practicing hovering can get really boring but it's the most important parts of flying a heli as you cant take off or land without it... Perfecting will payoff in the long run.... Those are great videos Fender.

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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03-04-2008 03:30 AM  10 years agoPost 31
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thanks for the compliments eveyone

another traing exercise I got from a guy at a fun fly...which is AWESOME..is do a "T"...with each hover orientation.......start with the heli in front of you,go straight out 20 ft...go left 10 ft...then right 10ft.then back..trying to keep the lines straight....do this with all 4 orientations....side in is really hard because of the stick arangement(nose in is basically"backward"but side in is kind of"sideways" )...is very hard to do it precise....really fine tunes your hovering....try it...just like hovering in the box...much harder than it sounds

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03-04-2008 03:42 AM  10 years agoPost 32
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practice
Thats good for practice. I will try that also. Very good tips are coming out of this. Thanjs Fender.
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03-04-2008 03:52 AM  10 years agoPost 33
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Fender for President!
Yes, I too am following the Fender school of flight progression that I got from Fender back in the Blade CP days. I also found side in on the first side came very easy. But the second side required many more hours of sim and battery time. I haven't brought the nose around yet. But it will be soon.

One of the SIM tips I'm using to prepare is to set your rudder trim so that your heli is in a constant slow piro. Then try to hold it in the same spot or direct it up or down the field, under control.

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03-04-2008 06:22 AM  10 years agoPost 34
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I have done that SIM trick and it definitely complicates things, and that is good for practice. Sometimes the SIM can be too perfect and that just adds more reality to it.

So I am reading two different approaches here. One is to learn hovering in tail-in and side-in, and then learn FF. Then you can use FF to help with nose-in. The other approach is to learn hovering in all orientations until you can do it in your sleep and then move forward to other things. I like the idea of the hovering first deal but it sure would be fun to learn FF

Oh yeah and Fender for Pres!!!

- Chris

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03-04-2008 11:13 AM  10 years agoPost 35
Jerry In Maine

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Get a Lama..
Practice nose in w/o fear of your King taking a dirt nap if something goes wrong. Worst that'll happen to the Lama is you might chip a blade (I got the Extreme blades so that's not a problem anymore. Practice indoors at night or during bad flying weather. Practice while watching TV - at dinner - having s~x or while sitting in the bath tub.

I went from scared to death to being fully comfortable with nose-in hovering in 3 days with the Lama, and no doubt it paid for itself in parts, postage, fustration and time. Side bonus was fun!

Now working on side-in. Should have that mastered before long.

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03-04-2008 01:46 PM  10 years agoPost 36
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Jerry in Maine flying a lama is completley different nose in with lama is so easy... i wouldn't recommend this over the simutalor or the real thing.. =>

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03-04-2008 03:41 PM  10 years agoPost 37
Jerry In Maine

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flying a lama is completley different
Didn't say it was the same...said it was good practice. The idea is to teach your brain how to think in any orientation - and the Lama has helped me alot with just that, plus I can get "stick time" when the weather isn't suitable for flying.

I've done the Lama, the Sim and the "real thing". And I think the Lama is far more realsitic than a sim. Maybe not if you want to fly sideways upside-down at Mach II - but rather for basic training and skills polishing with minimal crashing.

Hover the Lama in front of your nose (nose in) , and then hover the sim "in front of your nose" (nose in). See which one concerns you more about moving the right stick the wrong way.

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03-04-2008 04:21 PM  10 years agoPost 38
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Jerry

I completely agree with you.

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03-04-2008 04:36 PM  10 years agoPost 39
Jerry In Maine

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I completely agree with you.
Well then you're obviously a very smart and intelligent man...

I'm a "hard learner"...I have to do something over an dover until I get it. And I'm a "nervous flyer". Practicing nose in with the King made me more nervous - almost to the point of not having fun (and that's not good).

Anything that can take the edge off and help with the fun factor is a benefit.

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03-04-2008 04:38 PM  10 years agoPost 40
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