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03-03-2008 03:32 PM  10 years agoPost 1
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03-03-2008 03:38 PM  10 years agoPost 2
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Can you imagine being a passenger on the left window seat and seeing the runway from a view you never have seen before ??

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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03-03-2008 03:47 PM  10 years agoPost 3
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Look Brian, I can see your house from...HOLY CRAP!!!!

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03-03-2008 04:05 PM  10 years agoPost 4
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Wow! The pucker factor would have been very high! I can't believe they didn't divert to another runway or airport where they could make a safe landing. The pilot should be fired for even attempting that landing!

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03-03-2008 04:34 PM  10 years agoPost 5
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just a little cross wind if he would have kept that rt wing down he was all lined up. FIred I dont think so, Its not his call weather the wind is to bad that is the towers call not his but yes I think he called the ball a little late AS the nose was 30 deg off as he came down. That Had to be one crazy landing for the passangers onboard though, i couldnt immagine landing and looking out the window to see the run way lined up with the wing

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03-03-2008 04:42 PM  10 years agoPost 6
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just a little cross wind if he would have kept that rt wing down he was all lined up.
Just a little cross wind??? That was well beyond the maximum demonstrated crosswind capability. Had he kept the right wing down far enough to keep the plane lined up, he would have hit the right wing tip first and cart wheeled the plane. The PIC always has the last say, and he should have gone around and told the tower that he could not safely land in that wind on that runway.

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03-03-2008 05:04 PM  10 years agoPost 7
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Even within acceptable crosswind standards, turbulence can pop up where there is no apparent structure to induce it. Powerful and large diameter rotors can be and are generated over wide-open and seemingly flat expanses. Other irregular air movement can occur too. How many airports have the sensors to report unusual low-level turbulent anomolies?

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03-03-2008 05:38 PM  10 years agoPost 8
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JEEPWORLD2002
FIred I dont think so, Its not his call weather the wind is to bad that is the towers call not his
You clearly are not a pilot. The pilot is in charge and has the final responsibility and authority.

1stPlace
That was well beyond the maximum demonstrated crosswind capability.
Really? Do you know the cross wind component for an A320? What were the winds in Germany that day?

Unless you know both those numbers you are making a wild guess.

The Vmcg is 33knots at 90 degrees for an A320 BTW.

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03-03-2008 05:41 PM  10 years agoPost 9
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The Vmcg is 33knots at 90 degrees for an A320 BTW.
Do you know what Vmcg means? VMCG - minimum control speed on the ground .

You may be thinking about max (published or demostrated) crosswind component not Vmcg.

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03-03-2008 06:06 PM  10 years agoPost 10
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You may be thinking about max (published or demostrated) crosswind component not Vmcg.
Yep...sorry. Don't fly much anymore, the "G" should have been a clue. The Vspeed name I used was wrong, but the actual speed for Max Xwind came from an Airbus pilot buddy that flies A320's.

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03-03-2008 06:33 PM  10 years agoPost 11
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conditions looked nothing rare to me . of course the tower can only tell the pilot wind speed and direction and what its max gust is. its down to the pilot to caculate if he ia within limits to attempt to land depending on runway condition (wet /damp/water patches/flodded? amount of passengers on board and the weight.
if you want to see another good landing go to you tube and type in heavy alnding there one of london city where a bae146 comes in a little to hard
ive seen worse

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03-03-2008 06:35 PM  10 years agoPost 12
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03-03-2008 06:42 PM  10 years agoPost 13
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I think that first one would have been enough to make me get a boat home, frightening


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03-03-2008 07:04 PM  10 years agoPost 14
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I think that first one would have been enough to make me get a boat home, frightening
Better not google "Titanic" or you would never get home

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03-03-2008 07:07 PM  10 years agoPost 15
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They shouldn't have gone to the lowest bidder


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03-03-2008 07:11 PM  10 years agoPost 16
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Check out the link again, they have changed the video a little. On review it looks like they didn't have any business trying to land in those conditions.

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03-03-2008 11:07 PM  10 years agoPost 17
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looks to me like he came off the rudder too soon. pretty close call though.

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03-03-2008 11:09 PM  10 years agoPost 18
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It's a good job by the pilot (everyone walked away). The plane was hit by a gust at 155mph. At the time of the incident, the airport had been reporting gusts to 55mph (48kts)

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03-03-2008 11:10 PM  10 years agoPost 19
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well its a good thing he aborted. isn't there a cross wind limit when planes are not allowed to even attempt a landing?

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03-03-2008 11:24 PM  10 years agoPost 20
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isn't there a cross wind limit when planes are not allowed to even attempt a landing?
Certified aircraft have a "maximum demonstrated crosswind" listed in the operating handbook. This is not a limitation, just a statement of what the manufacturer was able to demonstrate with their test pilot.

In addition, the airline will have procedures that specify what condition that particular airline will allow it's pilots to land in (otherwise they must divert or hold).

In this case though, the plane happened to be on final approach when the wind suddenly gusted 3 times higher than previously observed.

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