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03-04-2008 02:18 AM  10 years agoPost 21
rexxigpilot

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Anyone know if the Vibe50 is available yet? And if so, where?

On the issue of what regulator, you may want to check out the SGProducts ReactorX. It uses a 7.2-7.4V (6 cell NiMh/NiCd or 2S lipo)input with Deans Ultra connector and has outputs of 6.0 or 6.8V (switchable)for the collective/cyclic and 5.2V for the tail. The collective servos are feed power directly from the regulator to bypass the low current handling capability of the typical receiver's electrical bus. It is fairly expensive compared to the Align 2 in 1 and it doesn't have the glow starter, but it can deliver over 10 Amps continuous to the swash servos. Those JR8717's and other power hungry servos will need this high current if you plan to really wring the Vibe out.

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03-04-2008 07:42 AM  10 years agoPost 22
JJ-TREX450

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Hey rexxigpilot, how about using the align 2 in 1 only for onboard glow, and 8 V direct to Rx for 8717 all round. For the tail use a spektrum regulator to give 5 V to the 770/8900G. As the Evo flightpower 3000mph 2S has 2 JR leads, therefore you can use one for the RX and other for the 2 in 1. How dows this sounds

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03-04-2008 07:46 AM  10 years agoPost 23
JJ-TREX450

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Vibe 50 isn't available yet, but soon it will be. I would say somewhere in end of march or first week of april. But the horizon guy told me, that they have huge pre-orders. It seems the first shipment wouldnt be able to fill alot of bunch. lets see...

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03-04-2008 01:58 PM  10 years agoPost 24
rexxigpilot

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JJ-Trex450,

I would not have the Aiign 2 in 1 on my heli for the purpose of glow starter only. Its too heavy. Using a standard off-board glow starter will keep the weight down. Also, I replaced the 2 in 1 on my T-rex600 with the SGP ReactorX due to the reason I stated above. Your 3 - 8717's are likely to draw approx. 6.6-7.5amps peak load (what is the stall/heavy load current requirements of the 8717 - 2.2 to 2.5amps each, considering the use of 2S lipo voltage?). I don't know which receiver you plan to use, but a typical receiver's bus (the main electrical conductor from which the servos draw their current)can't handle that much current, the ReactorX can.

Maybe your setup will be OK with direct 2S lipo, but I definitely would not want to add the unnecessary weight of the Align 2 in 1 on the super ligtweight Vibe50. You do plan to let this bird shine with hard 3D, right?

Anyone know who has the best price on the Vibe50? It looks like $599.99 is the typical going rate. Can I find it for less? PM me please if you know of a better price. Thanks.

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03-04-2008 03:29 PM  10 years agoPost 25
tchavei

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Some rumours are saying the plane with the Vibe 50 kits for the UK is landing right now

Tony


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03-04-2008 10:20 PM  10 years agoPost 26
hulley

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I paid for mine today from my LHS!

Eat Sleep 3D

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03-04-2008 10:22 PM  10 years agoPost 27
tchavei

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welcome to the club

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03-05-2008 01:45 AM  10 years agoPost 28
JJ-TREX450

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Hey rexxigpilot,
I think i'll be using the JR R2100 Scanselect Synthesized receiver for this bird. Where as I believe it will be able to handle 8 volts current, using Flightpower EVO 2S 3000. I do 3D on my Trex 450, but wouldn't be doing hard 3D on this bird. Only the 2 in 1 unit doesn't has that much of a weight, but this onboard glow sounds great. Which setup are you planning to use? Oh yea and the price wouldn't be lower then $ 599.99.

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03-05-2008 01:48 AM  10 years agoPost 29
tchavei

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Hmm... 50gr for a regulator isn't that bad. Thats the weight of the 2 in1, for the VR6010 and for the Arizona Reg.

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03-05-2008 02:56 AM  10 years agoPost 30
rexxigpilot

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JJ-TREX450

Here's what I plan to use:
Futaba BSL451 swash servos,
Any spare servo I have laying around for throttle
Spartan ds760 gyro with either BLS251 or S8900G servo for tail,
YS50 with Align pipe,
CSM SmartCarb with any servo
SPG ReatorX regulator with FlightPower or TP battery,
Century Rotortech 610mm main blades with 95mm tail blades or Radix 600mm mains with 92mm tail blades,
CSM Revlock30 or Align G600 governor,
Don't know yet on paddles, probably Super Stubz or Align 600 carbons,
Futaba 6014 receiver,
Kyosho Zeal tape for mounting electronics,
Futaba 12Z transmitter with TM-14 module.

That's about it. Did I miss anything.

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03-05-2008 03:03 AM  10 years agoPost 31
rexxigpilot

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Tony,

JJ is planning to run a 2S lipo direct to the receiver. The 50gr on-board weight cost just to initially lite the glow plug seems excessive IMHO. As I said before, I had a B6T 2 in 1 on my T-Rex600 and took it off. It worked fine, just too much extra weight.

BTW, I just weighed my B6T. It weighs 56.5g (the manual states 53.5g). That's about the same weight as a BLS241 servo (58g).

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03-05-2008 03:04 AM  10 years agoPost 32
tchavei

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Ok Ok I get the point

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03-05-2008 03:15 AM  10 years agoPost 33
rexxigpilot

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Sorry Tony,

I'm just concerned about weight since this bird is so appealing to me because of its low weight. Now I'm second guessing whether or not to use the CarbSmart and governor. I know how to properly set a carb and throttle curves. Do I really need the added weight of these items? Hmmm.

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03-05-2008 03:30 AM  10 years agoPost 34
tchavei

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hmmm

well... why don't you start without them and see how it goes? Sometimes its better to try things and move on as fitted.

my two cents

Tony


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03-05-2008 07:41 PM  10 years agoPost 35
JJ-TREX450

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As far as i know you get the flybar paddles with the kit.

What do you say about the following paddles:

http://www.centuryheli.com/products...&prtnm=CN262363

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03-05-2008 11:07 PM  10 years agoPost 36
Droid

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unnecessary weight of the Align 2 in 1 on the super ligtweight Vibe50.
Doesn't seem that super weight, looks like its giving an Airkipper a run for its money.

Why do you think anyone will offer a deal below $599 on an obviously sought after newly released model

You could always buy it from the UK and pay $800

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03-06-2008 01:19 AM  10 years agoPost 37
tchavei

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rexxigpilot: check the building manual. Doesn't look that lightweight anymore.

At least its as solid as it could be. Can't wait to shake its fat butt in the air

Tony


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03-06-2008 07:25 AM  10 years agoPost 38
JJ-TREX450

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Manual
Here's the manual for Vibe 50 3D

http://www.macgregor.co.uk/manuals/Vibe50-1.pdf

JJ

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03-06-2008 10:31 AM  10 years agoPost 39
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Vibe 50
I've got my Vibe 50 and will go with an OS 50 Hyper and Hatori USA SB 50 muffler.
Can't decide which servos to go for, super fast 8715's or std 8231's

Mmm Charmouth is coming-cool

M

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03-06-2008 10:24 PM  10 years agoPost 40
rexxigpilot

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Droid,

Selling for less on a main ticket item is a marketing strategy. While you're buying the main item for a little less you are likley to buy all your other items from the same dealer as well. The smaller items will not typically be at a reduced price. It's a fairly common concept.

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