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02-10-2008 11:23 PM  10 years agoPost 1
Daze

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A few years back, I had a Futaba 9CHP TX and the Reflex XTR simulator. I could hover well enough, and I (think I) was getting the hang on general flying (nose in being the exception).

I already had two young daughters at that point and, with a third child on the way, my "flight time" dwindled to nothing. XTR and my TX were sold on ebay. It seemed like a good idea at the time (as money was getting tight).

Well... Fast forward to now and our third child, my son, is now two. He loves helicopters as much as I do (Airwolf on the TV keeps him quiet-ish). I'm ready to give it all another shot. I'd like for it to be something we enjoy doing together as he grows up.

The thing is, I don't know whether to go back to the simulator (Phoenix looks great) or go for the real thing. My budget would probably allow for a T-Rex 450 or Titan Mini at the moment. The Titan Mini looks like a great little heli, but I really don't know which I'd go for. Is the T-Rex 450 still king? I like the small electric helis as I could, in theory, fly one at home.

Ideally, I'd like to buy an RTF kit with everything included (RX, TX, Giro etc), as I have little spare time at the moment. Is it possible to get such a starter kit? I don't even know where to start with selecting a TX anymore (and I don't have the budget I once had).

Would I be foolish to jump straight into flying the real thing? Would a Titan Mini be a good starting heli? I'm hoping that my experience with XTR will give me a good solid foundation on which to build on.

Thanks for any tips/advice.

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02-10-2008 11:38 PM  10 years agoPost 2
patriot21

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I would recommend a sim and a 50 size nitro.... I use G3 but i know there are other good sims out there... Why not get back into the real thing right away...A sim can only give you so much.. best way to practice is the real thing..IMHO the smaller 450 size are not the best to learn on other then the ease of electric...
I know your situation...I have a 4 year old, 2 year old and a 5 month old... I get maybe 1 or 2 days a week of flying... which doesn;t bother me ...
Can;t beat the old raptor 50 for a good all around beginner heli that can take you pretty far..if you want a complete RTF electric, you could check out the new 400 size blade package.. Good luck to you...

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02-10-2008 11:39 PM  10 years agoPost 3
Steff Giguere

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I think you should get in many flights on the sim first.

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02-10-2008 11:43 PM  10 years agoPost 4
oldboldpilot

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Southern California

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Fly the sim until you can't get it wrong..

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02-11-2008 12:02 AM  10 years agoPost 5
JAGNZ

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SIM, SIM, SIM.


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02-11-2008 12:17 AM  10 years agoPost 6
Daze

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I know you're all talking sense, but I kinda want the thrill of flying the real thing. I guess I need to be patient

Phoenix looks to be the way forward (XTR doesn't appear to have moved on much in the two years since I owned it).

Can anyone recommend a good TX? I can't afford anything top-of-the-range, but I'd like to invest in something that I will be able to use with the "real thing".

Thanks for your comments.

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02-11-2008 12:29 AM  10 years agoPost 7
Yug

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Re-establish muscle memory on the sim (Phoenix) and then practice hard.

You can't go wrong with a DX7.

R50 or 600N

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02-11-2008 02:07 AM  10 years agoPost 8
Daze

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Would the DX6 suffice? There's quite a difference in price between the DX7 and DX6.

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02-11-2008 03:58 AM  10 years agoPost 9
JAGNZ

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DX7 is the minimum I'd recommend for heli use - now and into the future...


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02-11-2008 12:27 PM  10 years agoPost 10
tlankford01

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Amarillo, TX 79110

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DX6 is way to gutless a radio. DX7 is the best start for sure. It even has room for advancement in the radio. Used ones are on here all the time and you would not have to be out hte new price and get a great radio.

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02-11-2008 12:54 PM  10 years agoPost 11
OK HELI

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my vote goes to the DX7, you can't go wrong with it and you won't have to buy a bigger one unless you go scale.
I'm only on my second boy 1yr old and next one is due in 3 weeks. I learned to buy my parts then tell the wife. easier to ask forgiveness than permission. she hates me spending money on this hobby but I love it..
the sim took me a long way but if you have the control to hover then the real thing will benefit you a lot more.
I recommend a 50 size where the small electrics are a lot more touchy to be learning on..that's just my 2 cents....good luck

Raptor 50 Titan with DX7, GY401, and TT Redline 53 is Awsome!

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02-11-2008 02:52 PM  10 years agoPost 12
bagobitz

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saddleworth,lancs,UK

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Daze, you have it, where the sim is concerned. I bought G3 early '05,It didn't even have heli's at that point(though they were on download)...since then, it's turned to a really good system....then came Phenix.....Reflex introduced "ivol" realflight introduced water-scenes and a new controller-and a new name,G4.

My choice, new, today would be Phoenix, with G4 as a close second.

Used, I'd still pick phoenix if I had a transmitter,
but the plug'n play package of G3.5 ,together with the "chase" and "cockpit" camera options,and the rendered or photofield options, make it a pretty compelling second choice.

As others have already said...classified's (also maybe Craig's list, feebay)

Rap. 50 is best bang for the buck,cheap and available spares

Complete setups of nitro heli,TX field box (even fuel!) often come up, where someone has spent the bucks on impulse and then found it needs a lot of time to learn to control a heli....their loss= your gain. Sim first, save the pennies,do the homework....who knows, get the wife on the sim, and you've got the job cracked!

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02-11-2008 02:52 PM  10 years agoPost 13
bagobitz

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Daze, you have it, where the sim is concerned. I bought G3 early '05,It didn't even have heli's at that point(though they were on download)...since then, it's turned to a really good system....then came Phenix.....Reflex introduced "ivol" realflight introduced water-scenes and a new controller-and a new name,G4.

My choice, new, today would be Phoenix, with G4 as a close second.

Used, I'd still pick phoenix if I had a transmitter,
but the plug'n play package of G3.5 ,together with the "chase" and "cockpit" camera options,and the rendered or photofield options, make it a pretty compelling second choice.

As others have already said...classified's (also maybe Craig's list, feebay)

Rap. 50 is best bang for the buck,cheap and available spares

Complete setups of nitro heli,TX field box (even fuel!) often come up, where someone has spent the bucks on impulse and then found it needs a lot of time to learn to control a heli....their loss= your gain. Sim first, save the pennies,do the homework....who knows, get the wife on the sim, and you've got the job cracked!

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