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02-09-2008 01:41 AM  10 years agoPost 1
LJS

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Hi All,

Well I'm into my second seasong with the Swift. She has 380 flights on her and is going strong.

I decided to put a little more life in her by going to 6 volts for the flight pack. So I picked up a Western Robotics 5 Amp 6 Volt BEC. It was my intention to eliminate the battery for a weight savings of 4.5 ounces (not an insignificant amount of weight). However, my 1700 mah pack was in the nose. It balanced perfectly with the battery in. Now, without it, the heli is tail heavy.

My TP5000 pack is already all the way to the front of the scoop on the canopy. The only things I can think to do is to either fly with a dummy battery up front for weight, or to cut the scoop off the canopy and mount the TP5000 even farther forward.

I don't really like either of those solutions. Can you think of anything else I can do?

Thanks for the help.

Keep 'em flying.
LJS

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TRex 600E VBar, 8S
Logo 500 VBar, 6S
TRex 600ESP, 6S

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02-09-2008 02:46 AM  10 years agoPost 2
Pistol Pete

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unfortunately you answered your own Q...
cut the scoop off the canopy and mount the TP5000 even farther forward.

~~Enjoying the hobby one flight at a time~~

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02-09-2008 04:37 AM  10 years agoPost 3
Bill Ludwig

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If it's the look of the battery sticking out front that you don't like, just mount a new-style Raptor 50 canopy on it (with very little modification).

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02-09-2008 10:33 AM  10 years agoPost 4
Greybird

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Just cut the bottom of the scoop off. Keep the sides. That is how mine is. I'll post a picture later.

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02-09-2008 10:33 AM  10 years agoPost 5
Greybird

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Just cut the bottom of the scoop off. Keep the sides. That is how mine is. I'll post a picture later.

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02-09-2008 02:35 PM  10 years agoPost 6
LJS

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Hi All,

Thanks for the suggestions. I'd like to put a different canopy on her, but I was planning on using my Swift to learn backwards inverted this summer. I'm worried that if I go with a different canopy that it'll fall off and possibly go through the blades.

But that is a very nice looking Swift, Bill. Please let me know how well the canopy stays on. I have to really pry my Swift canopy off. I like that.

Maybe I'll cut the scoop off. The weight savings is too much to pass up. Greybird, I'd be interested to see what yours looks like with just the sides.

Thanks again.
LJS

Logo 600 VBar, 10S
TRex 600E VBar, 8S
Logo 500 VBar, 6S
TRex 600ESP, 6S

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02-09-2008 03:00 PM  10 years agoPost 7
Bill Ludwig

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This one can't come off....there are zip ties around the front landing gear struts (hard to see in the pic). It's there to stay.

As a side benefit, the slightly larger canopy is also MUCH easier to see than the stock canopy.

- Bill

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02-09-2008 05:02 PM  10 years agoPost 8
LJS

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Hi Bill,

Sounds good. But I don't understand how you get your canopy off to switch out the battery and to do your preflight inspection. Do you cut the zip ties?

Thanks.
LJS

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02-09-2008 05:10 PM  10 years agoPost 9
Bill Ludwig

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Yes, you cut the zip ties to remove the canopy. I figure it's a small price to pay for the MUCH nicer-looking canopy.

- Bill

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02-09-2008 08:12 PM  10 years agoPost 10
LJS

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Hi Bill,

Yes, you're right. It is a small price to pay. And it does look great. And... it definitely won't come off.

Thanks for the tips.
LJS

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TRex 600ESP, 6S

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02-09-2008 08:54 PM  10 years agoPost 11
Bill Ludwig

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If you do use the Raptor canopy, you'll probably want to add a few air vents as shown below...

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02-10-2008 03:09 PM  10 years agoPost 12
LJS

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Hi Bill,

Wow, nice work on that canopy. Your cutting work is top notch.

I've decided to cut the scoop off my canopies. I've got two Swift canopies that I've painted in flourescent colors, so I want to use them. And, by cutting off the scoop, I have easy access to the battery and will be able to change them out without taking the canopy off. I'm going to put flourescent yellow monokote on the batteries to make them look like part of the canopy.

But I may go your route down the road. I've got some 600E canopies that look like they'd fit. You can see them by checking out my gallery.

Thanks again for all the tips. Keep 'em flying.
LJS

Logo 600 VBar, 10S
TRex 600E VBar, 8S
Logo 500 VBar, 6S
TRex 600ESP, 6S

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02-10-2008 05:58 PM  10 years agoPost 13
Greybird

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Herer are some pictures with just the bottom cut out.

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02-10-2008 06:36 PM  10 years agoPost 14
LJS

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Thanks Greybird,

That's what mine looks like right now. However, I'm going to cut the sides off as well for better access to the battery. I'm going to put matching Monokote on the battery to make it look like part of the canopy.

I'm looking forward to the 4.5 ounce weight reduction, easier battery access, and no more charging the flight pack and faster servos due to the 6V BEC.

Thanks again to all for your help.

Keep 'em flying.
LJS

Logo 600 VBar, 10S
TRex 600E VBar, 8S
Logo 500 VBar, 6S
TRex 600ESP, 6S

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02-10-2008 11:09 PM  10 years agoPost 15
Greybird

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Hey LJS. I have another canopy with the entire bottom cut out. It looks better with a little of the side, than without.

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02-13-2008 06:46 PM  10 years agoPost 16
LJS

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Hi Greybird,

I did leave a little of the sides. I was trying to not let the black of the bottom plate and side frames show.

It turned out pretty good. I'll try to post a picture tonight.

The other thing that is really nice is that I don't have to fight that canopy to get the battery on and off. That's going to save a lot of time and effort at the field. I fly three packs back to back to back before work and at lunch. Any time savings are appreciated.

Thanks again for all the good feedback!

Keep 'em flying.
LJS

Logo 600 VBar, 10S
TRex 600E VBar, 8S
Logo 500 VBar, 6S
TRex 600ESP, 6S

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02-14-2008 01:23 AM  10 years agoPost 17
LJS

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Hi All,

Here's a picture of my Swift with the scoop removed. Not too bad.

My Swift doesn't have the sex appeal of my 600N and 600E, but it's going to be the workhorse this year pulling me through learning inverted, backwards, and inverted backwards circuits. She's been good to me so far. I'm hope I'm good to her...

Keep 'em flying.
LJS

Logo 600 VBar, 10S
TRex 600E VBar, 8S
Logo 500 VBar, 6S
TRex 600ESP, 6S

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02-14-2008 11:00 PM  10 years agoPost 18
Greybird

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I like the colors. Must be easy to see. Are those stickers on the battery?

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02-15-2008 01:10 AM  10 years agoPost 19
LJS

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Hi Greybird,

Yes. The color on the battery is done in sticky Monokote.

It just happens to match the Pactra model car spray paint that I used to paint the canopy. Those colors are very easy to see. I clearcoated it with Top Flite crystal clear LustreKote. It's a pretty durable finish. I sanded the canopy quite a bit with 360 sandpaper to make sure the paint would stick.

You can put those colors on a heli for about $20 in spray cans.

The TRex 600 in the background was done with House of Kolor automotive paints. It has a much higher gloss, but cost about 15 times as much to do (I'm not exagerating!) I like to paint, so I think it was worth it. But the spray cans are a much better value.

If you like those colors, check out my gallery for some more paint jobs.

Thanks again for the help.

Keep 'em flying.
LJS

Logo 600 VBar, 10S
TRex 600E VBar, 8S
Logo 500 VBar, 6S
TRex 600ESP, 6S

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02-15-2008 02:46 AM  10 years agoPost 20
Greybird

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Wow! The 600's do look really nice..

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