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02-08-2008 05:27 PM  10 years agoPost 1
TJinGuy

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In an effort to better understand some of the advanced features of my new and very nice 6EX, I did a bunch of searching and reading. Along the way I bumped into this site and found it very helpful, even though it is for a different heli.

Kinetic 50 Radio Set-up Guide for the Futaba 6EX-2.4GHz

Enjoy!

- Chris

Team New Mexico
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02-09-2008 05:46 AM  10 years agoPost 2
JBURR49

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Good catch TJinGuy.Do you think these settings would work for HBK2.I just purchased a 6ex and im unsure of correct settings.New to heli flying and wondering if there are beginner settings.I'm still in the training wheel stage which in my case means 10 minutes stick time and 2 hours table time.

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02-09-2008 02:33 PM  10 years agoPost 3
tmaxx26power

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No, each heli requires it's own specific radio settings.

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02-09-2008 03:45 PM  10 years agoPost 4
slider46

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Ocala Florida

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Go to heli freak and watch the finless setup videos for the trex 450 they will give you all of the correct ways to setup any belt driven tail heli on the market. You just need to change the actual setup numbers to fit your needs on your heli, but it's a great place to learn about what to do during setup.....

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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02-10-2008 02:31 AM  10 years agoPost 5
JBURR49

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Thanks for the info,appreciate very much.I just finished replacing the upper frame,those little nuts and screws are a b***h.The frame broke where motor mounts.I tried to epoxy the frame hoping it would hold untill new frame was deleivered.I got a few attempts at hovering but epoxy did not hold up.Thanks again.

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02-10-2008 03:40 AM  10 years agoPost 6
tryan02

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I run my rudder servo upside down so your rudder may need reversed but this is all there is too it.

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02-10-2008 04:28 AM  10 years agoPost 7
Burlyman38

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Okay guys, I have a few questions also....

Tryan, on your settings, what exactly does the SWSH a channel, e channel, and p channel refer too? What do the settings change on the flight of the heli?

ALso, when setting the normal throttle and idle up throttle pitch curves, do the percentages correlate to the degree pitch? I am not sure how to even phrase the question, basically when you set the pitch curve as 1-47 2-49 3-50 4-75 5-100 and you say that that should be -2 to +10 on the pitch, does the percentages directly correspond to the pitch number ( in degrees) somehow?

TripleB
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02-10-2008 04:40 AM  10 years agoPost 8
tryan02

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a aileron e elevator p pitch so you can set the throw of the ccpm mixing in the radio.

and you pretty much answered the rest of your own questions. the number doesn't really correlate directly to pitch but as you see the numbers travel 0-100 in a sort of ratio relative to pitch.

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02-10-2008 05:04 AM  10 years agoPost 9
slider46

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Ocala Florida

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3B Set your pitch with a pitch guage don't assume the percentage numbers from someone elses radio will match your mechanical setup as you might be a 1/2 turn longer on your links. Use the -2 -1 0 +5 +10 for your normal mode setting... Idle up will be -10 -5 0 +5 +10

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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02-10-2008 04:51 PM  10 years agoPost 10
Burlyman38

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Thank You SLider and Tryan,

I am presently working on some type of platform to put the heli on and have adjustments to lift up the flybar at the outer edges. So that wat I can level the flybar with the heli also on a level surface for both the swash and the pitch gauge. Otherwise I dont trust just eyeballing it. I am getting steady hover now, but it is taking a decent amount of input from the sticks. AND as slider is always the first to say, Set it up right and it will fly right.

ANd also, I was misleading in my question about the A,E and P . I was pretty sure what they stood for, but how does each effect the controls. I looked at where my settings were a+50, e +50, and p -60 which is a far cry from what tryan showed on his settings. I am not sure where I got those numbers from, but I have them set for both rx's.

Side Note: Tryan, that cellpro is AWESOME. showed I had two pack badly out of balance and were repaired, and a thunder power 1320 charged in 15 minutes!!!!

TripleB
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02-10-2008 04:59 PM  10 years agoPost 11
slider46

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The A+E is the amout of movement in the swash your getting, The less you have the slower the response from stick inputs 6* is pretty twitchy for a new guy but actually pretty good for sport flying and light 3D... I thing the 50 50 60 is the default numbers in the radio The p is your pitch adjustment of the swash that should be set high enough so your not getting any binding on the head. This is an important adjustment to get full throw on your helis pitch. I like to keep it set so I get +9 or 10 degrees full pitch and it should be the same number on the negitive side too....

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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02-10-2008 05:08 PM  10 years agoPost 12
Burlyman38

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I just checked the default on the futaba 6ex settings for a heli and they are a +50 e +50 and p +50.

TripleB
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02-10-2008 05:32 PM  10 years agoPost 13
Burlyman38

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And after further review, the p value can be + or -. Its just a matter of how far from 0 it is. +60 and -60 for p gives the same throw either way.

I just checked for the same thing on the a & e, and while increasing them higher + or - increases the throw, increasing to the + side starts initially with a higher swash and the same holds inversly true for the - side.

SOOO, in effect that setting is purely to set the correct pitch of the blades then? And if that is so, why didnt you guys just say that those settings did just that!

TripleB
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02-10-2008 05:50 PM  10 years agoPost 14
fenderstrat

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Aston,Pa

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the A+E settings control your aeileron and elevator throws...the pitch setting controls the total pitch of the main blades.....dont worry about anyone elses numbers as different servos and set ups give vastly different numbers...just make sure your heli is properly set up

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02-10-2008 05:56 PM  10 years agoPost 15
slider46

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Ocala Florida

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The - + is to change the direction of the servo to get the 120* swash servos working together, in the right direction. The values only increase and decrease the amount of throw in the swash and pitch... It doesn't set the pitch of the blades only the total travel limit... Say 60% gives you 10 degrees of pitch in the blades and doesn't hit the head block.. and you only want 8* total. You can lower that value to say 48% or what ever actual number and achieve the 8* pitch total for + and - pitch... Same applies to the swash if your ele and ail is to sensitive you can lower the 60% to say 50% to lower the travel of the swash THe ele and ail will always be the same number but the pitch value will be different...

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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02-10-2008 06:08 PM  10 years agoPost 16
TJinGuy

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THe ele and ail will always be the same number ...
Same number but they may be either + or -. My ail is - and my ele is +. I believe it depends on the servos used.

- Chris

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02-10-2008 06:09 PM  10 years agoPost 17
Burlyman38

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THERE WE GO. THat did it for me! NOW it has sunk in! THank you slider that was the explanation i needed. Now, just to get it right for me. that is another thing all together. he he he.

THanks for finally pounding it through the triple b's thick head.

TripleB
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02-10-2008 06:16 PM  10 years agoPost 18
slider46

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TripB it's not your thick head It's a hard concept to explain in words I could show you how it's done faster than I can type it out.. Just glad you have it figured out ....

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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