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02-08-2008 03:15 PM  10 years agoPost 1
Heliacious

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Newnan, GA

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Hey guys,

I am preparring to purchase my first heli. I have many hours of training on RF G3.5 and feel Im ready for my first real flights.

I want to get a larger size electric, i.e. Logo10-14, Swift, etc. No 450 stuff.

I am not so interested in doing 3D so much as just Sport Flying for now. And later maybe add a Scale Fuse of some type.

With that being said, which Heli would you recommend that I purchase?

Thanks for your help.

-Matt

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02-08-2008 03:36 PM  10 years agoPost 2
Invrted1

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Because of the new Logo 500 and 600, you can now find Logo 10's around for a good price. I fly one and like it a lot.

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02-08-2008 03:52 PM  10 years agoPost 3
P.J.

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Hi Matt.

The Logo 500 would be a good choice, i'm amazed at how they fly.

PJ

SAB Heli Division
Hyperion
Spektrum RC
Scorpion Systems
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02-08-2008 05:24 PM  10 years agoPost 4
3DChopper

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Matt,
What Electronics (motor, ESC, Battery and pinion) do you recommend?

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02-08-2008 06:21 PM  10 years agoPost 5
Jag72

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Esky Esmart heli is what I recommend..
The Esky Esmart is a great heli for Cheap $$$...

it flies Great and the parts are SUPER cheap...it would make a great 1st heli...

take a look....the heli with blades and a motor are only 200$

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02-10-2008 04:11 PM  10 years agoPost 6
Heliacious

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Hey guys, thanks for the replies.

I was hoping to field more opinions that this though. I figured with a site as big as this one, I would get lots of opinions on this.

Whats the deal? Is this size electric helicopter not very popular? Too expensive for most? Is a bigger size more economical?

Should I just go nitro? Seems like there are more nitro flyers in the Heli world than electric flyers. Maybe I should just go that route. Especially if it means I can obtain more help if I need it.

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02-10-2008 04:22 PM  10 years agoPost 7
MMike

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I think your thread got buried.

IMHO, there is alot of help and support on electrics.

BTW, a trex 500 is another option.

Also, I see you did own a heli before.

What was it?

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02-10-2008 10:15 PM  10 years agoPost 8
HeliaciousrrApprentice - Newnan, GA - My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Well, I dont consider it to be actually owning a "heli". It was more like a toy that didnt fly well. It was a GWS Dragonfly a couple of years ago, I had it for a few weeks, and ended up selling it, because it was not what I needed to learn on.

I like flying the larger sized helis on the G3.5 simulator so I figured I should look into something about 30 size or up.

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02-10-2008 10:21 PM  10 years agoPost 9
MMike

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Matt

The 500 is as big electric as I own.

I think if you go bigger, the batteries get pricey.

I have a 30 size nitro that's bigger, but it's an oily hassle.

Is a 38" rotor big enough?

If not, nitro might be a coast effective approach.

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02-10-2008 10:31 PM  10 years agoPost 10
MMike

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One other thought.

You could get into a HBK2 for about $150.

I'm sure it would be a great starter heli for you.

Over time, I'm sure you'd know exactly what your next heli should be.

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02-10-2008 10:38 PM  10 years agoPost 11
Heliacious

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Mike,

I'm not real sure. Thats hard for me to figure out. I do own a couple of 3s 2100mah Thunder Power Packs that I use in my plane, and I also have a 3s 3250 Tanic Pack. I know I could use the 2100's in something like a Mini Titan, but I am afraid that this size heli would be too unstable feeling for me as my first real attempt at heli's.

I would like to save money, and I am afraid of the costs of batteries in the large size helis, but I have always heard, ever since I began preparing to fly helis that bigger flies better and is worth the additional costs. Cost is important to me, as I dont have unlimited or large funds available for this.

Can you enlighten me a little on the aspects of a 500 size vs. a 450?

What size batteries do they require? Is there a noticable difference in stability and wind resistance with these?

Thanks so much for helping me get a better grip on this, its quite a bit to really understand, especially considering my experience with Helis. When I search around, and read different things, I cant quite get the full understanding about the benefits and drawbacks to the different sizes of helis. And Im hoping to make only one purchase for a long duration, so as to minimize the amount of loss when trading up, or over if I dont get the right one first.

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02-10-2008 10:48 PM  10 years agoPost 12
MMike

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There's a thread today that guys detailed their 500 cost.

But to answer your question.

The 500 is twice the weight and twice the blade area of a 450.

I have both. No comparison. The 500 flies BIG.

I use my 450 batteries (2) on the 500.

You can get a GF 500 for around $500.

200 servos
130 gyro.
receiver and radio, I'm sure you know all about.

I have a DX7. Love it.

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02-10-2008 11:04 PM  10 years agoPost 13
Heliacious

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Ill look around for that thread, but in case I cant find it, can you put a link here for me?

edit: found it. Im gonna read up. Sounds like the 500 is more of what I may need. Thanks for the tip.

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02-10-2008 11:12 PM  10 years agoPost 14
MMike

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Good luck.

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02-23-2008 07:28 PM  10 years agoPost 15
rhampton

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also have a question about this E-SMART 600
i cant afford a trex 600 but i love the Larger Electric Helis...Is this E-Smart 600 the same size looking as the Trex 600? i see some on ebay really cheap new...So far this was the cheapest Largest Heli i have seen so far..Just the Kit with the Motor.....
If anyone has one for sale,,,,please let me know.....

Also with this Heli do i absolutely need a seperate BEC and Battery?
i have a Jr. Voyager E and all i use to power it is a 3s 2100mAh battery with the Esc.....it's a 500 size heli.....
so can the same principle be done with the E-Smart 600? just 1 3s battery and 1 esc? of course servos, Gyro, Etc....

Please advise if anyone has experience Flying without a seperate BEC and Battery for Bec.....

Reggie

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02-23-2008 10:29 PM  10 years agoPost 16
kyuuki

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falmouth, uk

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You get what you pay for.

If cost is an issue, which it looks to be. Are you sure you want a big electric? crash costs will be pretty high. And yes you will crash. many times.

You said in your first post no 450 size helis. I dont quite see why you would take them out of the equation so early. In my opinion the T-rex 450 is much more fun to fly than a 30 50 class ship. And the crash costs are low.

I love my T-rex 450. The raptor sits in the corner unloved. It wont be seeing any flights anytime soon.

Perfect.

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02-24-2008 12:49 AM  10 years agoPost 17
Heliacious

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Newnan, GA

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Im out of the market now, I decided to take the $4k I had and pay off my credit cards all together. I may get a heli later on, but its just not a priority right now. When I do, I will look into the TREX500 more than likely. I believe its the one Im looking for. Thanks for all the opinions.

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06-23-2008 05:52 PM  10 years agoPost 18
Heliacious

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Well, I thought I would update this page now that I am finally into the heli world.

Turns out after all the calculations and considerations that surround these cool machines, I ended up going with a Trex 450SA as my first heli and I couldnt be more happy, go figure. I thought a 450 was too small and would not be what I wanted but I think its exactly what I needed. Here's why:

1. Small size lets me fly more often because it requires less room and is less of a threat to stuff around me. I also love the aluminum carrying case I bought for it. Just pack it up, throw it in the back seat and roll out without worry.

2. Cost...excellent product for the money, cheap repairs, low running costs over time, small batteries stress your wallet less in the event you destroy one in a crash.

3. Great part support, factory and aftermarket.

4. Durability, I have crashed twice so far and have only had to replace blade grips, tail boom, main shaft, and a main gear (gotta learn to hit the throttle stop switch faster). I was suprised to find this as the only damage because it hit pretty hard both times.

5. Fun, its a ton of fun. I love it and will probably always keep it around.

But...
After I get proficient with the 450 I plan on adding a 600N to my list. I eventually want a large heli for the club field. (large to me anyway).

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06-23-2008 08:06 PM  10 years agoPost 19
MikeC

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In my opinion the T-rex 450 is much more fun to fly than a 30 50 class ship.
IMO, not even close. The Trex 450 does fly good for a small heli but it's no where near as visible or as easy to fly as a 500 or larger. I have a Swift and I loved it so much I immediately sold off all my TREX 450 stuff.

I highly recommend the Swift but I think the Logo 10 would be a good choice also. Almost bought an L10 when I stepped up from the TREX 450 but the higher cost of kit and parts, plus the fact that the Swift could use my standard size servos, made it an easy decision.

Mike

Century Swift, TREX 450, Blade MCX, Spektrum DX7

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06-23-2008 08:34 PM  10 years agoPost 20
Skarn

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Pasadena, MD

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In my opinion the T-rex 450 is much more fun to fly than a 30 50 class ship.
IMO, not even close. The Trex 450 does fly good for a small heli but it's no where near as visible or as easy to fly as a 500 or larger. I have a Swift and I loved it so much I immediately sold off all my TREX 450 stuff.
Well, I agree that it IS at least as fun as the 50 class nitro's! He didn't say they were as easy or visible or as stable as a 50 class...simply they are more fun!

I have both and fly my 450 more than the Raptor just because of convenience. Is it more fun? Not sure about that, but I like them equally....

Skarn

It's better to burn out than to fade away...

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