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02-08-2008 12:30 AM  11 years ago
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ut_neon

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Cheap Models!?
I found that Belt CP Kit Only is 53 USD in my store and HoneyBee King 2 Is only 40 USD.

I think i will buy 1x Belt CP Kit and the remaining parts of the one i crashed will be for replace.

also i upgraded the headlock gyro to futaba, the servos to hitech hs55 and TX and RX to futaba 2.4ghz. so i will buy a HBK2 Kit wish brushless motor and have it just for fun=) it's so cheap... what motor would you recommend? just for fun 3100 KV esky brushless is ok?
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02-08-2008 12:33 AM  11 years ago
tryan02

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nice
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02-08-2008 12:36 AM  11 years ago
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No, the 3100kv is reported to have problems. Seems a bunch of folks are running the 3800 and the 3900 motors. You have to dremel a little to run the 3800kv but its supposed to be more powerful. Thats what I use. Some of these guys are running an HDX300 ? motor with good luck. Read previous post here about motors.
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02-08-2008 12:39 AM  11 years ago
tryan02

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400+ flights on the 300HDX3800rpm with 10t pinion makes the king a powerhouse with good forward speed.
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02-08-2008 01:18 AM  11 years ago
ut_neon

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400+ flights on the 300HDX3800rpm with 10t pinion makes the king a powerhouse with good forward speed.
i will go for tryan02 opinion=) what esc should i use? do i have to buy a ESC programming card?

what's the difference between 9pinion or 10?
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02-08-2008 01:23 AM  11 years ago
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9 to 10t makes her come alive more stable hovers and more responsive. Thats about as fast as you want to turn with a plastic head. Im unsure of ESC's now I bought an ELE30amp it just died the BEC that powers the radio quit. And only some need a card for programming but most have a way to use the radio sticks like throttle up or down to program them. But usually factory defaults work fine so no programming is needed.
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02-08-2008 01:34 AM  11 years ago
ut_neon

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do i have to buy ESC and BEC? or are they in the same?
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02-08-2008 02:00 AM  11 years ago
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they are a single unit the ESC/BEC uses a servo wire to provide power to the radio gear but they tend to be a little weak and may cause problems under load I am not sure I may be buying a higher current rated separate BEC to power my radio It runs parallel with the esc directly from the batteries power.
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02-08-2008 04:57 PM  11 years ago
ut_neon

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tryan02 i will have both belt cp and honeybee king 2, and i will upgrade one of them to carbon/aluminium editon. which one should it be? should it be the one i like the most? i just got today my futaba 2.4ghz radio=D
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02-08-2008 05:03 PM  11 years ago
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Why not leave them both plastic and pick up another heli instead of converting on to CF/CNC? Maybe a Mini Titan or T-Rex 450S or even an E-Smart?- Chris

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02-08-2008 05:07 PM  11 years ago
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Get the BEC, try-guy. Not only does it take a load off the ESC and offer just that little bit more insurance, some of them have an LED. More lights is always good. I have my HW UBEC mounted under the canopy and that red glow coming through the tinted windshield (of course, the King is ridin' dirty) looks great, especially in the evening and as a contrast to the blue pin-spot of the Telebee.A soul in tension is learning to fly
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02-08-2008 11:25 PM  11 years ago
ut_neon

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Why not leave them both plastic and pick up another heli instead of converting on to CF/CNC? Maybe a Mini Titan or T-Rex 450S or even an E-Smart?
Do you think they're not worth a few upgrades? if i were to buy another one would be the trex 450 se but i'm still a newbie, i don't feel like crashing the trex 450 metal edition=D
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02-08-2008 11:46 PM  11 years ago
tryan02

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metals metal see dougie and the copterX heads you can get from ebay for $50. I am damn glad I upgraded my king head makes for an even quicker bird. from what Ive heard others say the Beltcp is a little sluggish compared to the king. I don't know, If thats true I would think upgrading the Beltcp Would be the thing to do.. I am now buying radio gear for my 450TREXSEV2 But that doesn't belong here so I wont mention it any further.
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02-13-2008 03:22 AM  11 years ago
ut_neon

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I Have a lot of questions, they're not top important questions but i'm still looking for the answers:

1. I have both belt cp and honey bee king 2, i will be flying those two for a long time, should i upgrade both of them or leave one of them plastic and make one other powerful upgraded?

2. How strong is the Belt CP Carbon Fibre Main Frame? I just broke my plastic main brake in a crash in the grass.

3. I see that the honeybee king2 has a carbon fibre main frame but i don't find it separate from the RTF version. have you seen this frame kit selling separate?

4. If i were to upgrade the motor of my belt cp to have more more which one should i use?

5. The head are the same for both helicopters, and for what i've been reading in this forum theres some slop in the washout and the guideplate, i see that there is a better washout and guide plate in helidirect in the HBK2 upgrade part. they're only in the hbk2 upgrade part but they should be compatible as well with the belt cp right?
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02-13-2008 04:40 AM  11 years ago
shizack

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1. I have both belt cp and honey bee king 2, i will be flying those two for a long time, should i upgrade both of them or leave one of them plastic and make one other powerful upgraded?
I'd upgrade one all the way, fly it a while, and then swap the pieces to the other bird to see if the difference is worth it. If so, get another upgrade set.
2. How strong is the Belt CP Carbon Fibre Main Frame? I just broke my plastic main brake in a crash in the grass.
No idea.
3. I see that the honeybee king2 has a carbon fibre main frame but i don't find it separate from the RTF version. have you seen this frame kit selling separate?
The Esky frame is said to be an "upcoming release". Xtreme has a carbon frame that's "scheduled" for March. I wouldn't start holding my breath until April.
4. If i were to upgrade the motor of my belt cp to have more more which one should i use?
Any similar-sized brushless motor rated at 3800 - 4500 kv should work.
5. The head are the same for both helicopters, and for what i've been reading in this forum theres some slop in the washout and the guideplate, i see that there is a better washout and guide plate in helidirect in the HBK2 upgrade part. they're only in the hbk2 upgrade part but they should be compatible as well with the belt cp right?
If you're referring to the Esky purple head parts, they will fit the King or BeltCP.
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02-13-2008 12:57 PM  11 years ago
ut_neon

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If you're referring to the Esky purple head parts, they will fit the King or BeltCP.
I'm refering to these, they in the HBK2 Upgrade part:

http://www.helidirect.com/product_i...roducts_id=1649

http://www.helidirect.com/product_i...roducts_id=1284
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