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02-07-2008 06:14 PM  10 years agoPost 1
harrysvr

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Hello,
until now I`m using my compact nikon 7900 with the urbi interface for shutter also a downlink system with 12v camera etc.
I want to upgrade to a dslr camera with live view and the same urbi interface for triggering(AP use).
I`m thinking of
Canon 40d
Canon 450d
Sony a350
Sony a700 WHICH ONE?

The usage will be both for personal and AP, thanks.

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02-07-2008 06:35 PM  10 years agoPost 2
Rappy 60

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The question you have to ask yourself is how much can I afford. Don't forget to account for the cost of different lenses. You can have the best camera around, but if your shooting through crap lenses then your images are going to be crap. Invest in your lenses first, then what you have left over budget for the camera, you can always upgrade to a better body and if you purchased quality lenses they will transfer to the new body. Personally if it was me and I could afford it, I would buy the 40d with a good quality 'L' lens or two.

Here is the breakdown:

The 10,20,30,40D bodies are pro entry level cameras
The XT, XTI, and the new XSI are consumer level cameras

I still shoot with my EOS 10D (I love that camera even though it has short falls) but I shoot with 'L' lenses only.

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02-07-2008 06:35 PM  10 years agoPost 3
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If you can wait.. The Canon XSI is supposed to be pretty sweet.. with live view video out and also "live mode" where it can focus while in Live View! (40d can't do that) Some kind of new Contrast AF. It does not have to move the mirror for auto focus..

Sounds like a great DSLR.. I just need one now.. I too am trying to decide... I don't plan on going with Sony.. It will be either the 40D or 400D (XTI).. with a 10-22 piece of glass hangin off it.

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02-07-2008 06:44 PM  10 years agoPost 4
dreslism

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The XTi/XSi will both be much lighter than the 40D.

Something to consider when hanging it under a heli.

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02-07-2008 07:03 PM  10 years agoPost 5
harrysvr

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Why not sony?
On dpreview forum they say 40d is far better than 450d.
Maybe its better to go with a cheaper slr(450d) and quality lenses?

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02-07-2008 08:10 PM  10 years agoPost 6
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'Sony' is ok, theyre actually Minolta, Tamron, and CZ products rebadged for Sony and the prices went up...

you won't find them in many places because Minolta missed the mark when digital came around and now Sony has to rebuild the name....in most pro circles, there is an aversion to them because of the lack of support, rental, or replacement in comparison to 'C' and 'N'. otherwise good products worth taking a look at.

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02-07-2008 08:23 PM  10 years agoPost 7
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I am waiting for the Sigma DP1

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02-07-2008 08:46 PM  10 years agoPost 8
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??
I have the 40D and love it. But I don't think I'd put it under a heli. I went from a 300D to a 40D so I'm really partial to my new DSLR.

I went from the 7900 to the Canon A640. For the money it is a great camera and it will really teach you a lot about having manual control of the camera. With the 7900 you can't control much of anything. With the A640, you can pretty much control everything. Is it a DSLR. Nope. But it does take great pictures and wouldn't hurt as much to crash.

If you do go the DSLR route, look into their glass. The advice of investing in glass first and a body second is really smart advice.

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02-08-2008 08:08 AM  10 years agoPost 9
CKY

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Most decent lens cost more than most DSLRs. Skimp on the body and get a decent lens. Skimp on the lens and it won't matter much what body you get.

Chris

The nice part of Sony...stabilization is in the body, not the lens. Still a moot point as IS is a waste for AP

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02-08-2008 04:52 PM  10 years agoPost 10
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If you have a limited budget The older {2-3 yrs} cannon rebel is a great camera.

Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!

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02-08-2008 05:37 PM  10 years agoPost 11
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Do this, do that, no wait do this!

Anything you buy will be obsolete in five years so don’t shoot your wade thinking what you buy today will be what you want in five years.

How good a photographer are you? Don’t buy something you don’t know the first thing about just to be cool. Are you going to make money with this equipment or are you trying to justify something you want by telling yourself you will be able to pay for it with this AP idea you have?

Glass lenses are better than plastic lenses and lenses are not compatible with all cameras especially future cameras that haven’t been invented yet. Sony could be the top dog today and Cannon the next. There is no guarantee either one will still make cameras in the future. There could be a new kid on the block that takes the spot light while the others go by the wayside.

I have said this before; buy what you can afford and use for the next five years. You have no idea what will change in the next five years. Planned obsolescence is the goal for all consumer products.

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02-08-2008 05:42 PM  10 years agoPost 12
macsgrafs

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I have the 350D, the 20D & the 40D. none of these will give you a live video link back to mother earth. Both the 30D & 40D are a lot heavier than the 350D which has now been replaced by the 400D. Someone mentioned a new canon, keep your eyes on that & just wait it out.

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Ross

Seems to me that ALL heli's beat the air into submission

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02-08-2008 07:29 PM  10 years agoPost 13
Rappy 60

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40D. none of these will give you a live video link back to mother earth.
Are you saying the 40D doesn't have a live video out?

Dale

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02-08-2008 09:39 PM  10 years agoPost 14
harrysvr

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It has but I think in 450d is working better(as I read), so I`m thinking more and more on eos 450d and a good lense.
I see L lense its more expensive, why?

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02-08-2008 11:00 PM  10 years agoPost 15
rroback

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L glass is more expensive, because it uses higher precision parts, and is built in a much more solid way. There are non-L glass that is good, such as the canon 20mm, but overall, L glass has less distortion, chromatic aberration, and just a much higher built quality, which makes a difference when the lense is used a lot. If you've got money, you can even consider a used 5d.

Rhett..... I can't fly, but the Profi sure can.

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02-09-2008 06:49 AM  10 years agoPost 16
CKY

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L lens are better sealed, don't inhale and exhale dust, don't fog up in cold weather, ultra precision glass. Expensive.

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02-09-2008 07:07 AM  10 years agoPost 17
SeismicCWave

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A nice DSLR is find and dandy. L glasses are sure beautiful. However the bottom line you have to remember before buying anything is how much do they weight. Not how much do they cost.

Your helicopter will not like you if you exceed the weight limit.

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02-09-2008 12:27 PM  10 years agoPost 18
harrysvr

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My heli is a 60size raptor,
I read about a test of
ef 17-40mm f/4L usm(640$) and the standard ef-s 18-55mm f/3 5-5,6 IS(100$ if I buy it with the body),
the result was almost the same except if you enter on details...
[url=http://www.cameralabs.com/features/Canon400D_lens_upgrade/page4.shtml]
Is it worth the L(much more money) or the IS?

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02-09-2008 07:05 PM  10 years agoPost 19
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A glow fuel Raptor 60 should be able to lift a 400D.

Zoom and IS are useless in the air. A wide angle prime lens will get you better image quality.

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02-10-2008 04:27 AM  10 years agoPost 20
Rappy 60

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I read about a test of
ef 17-40mm f/4L usm(640$) and the standard ef-s 18-55mm f/3 5-5,6 IS(100$ if I buy it with the body),
the result was almost the same except if you enter on details..
What you have to realize here is that they may be marked close to the same focal length they are in fact not.

The EF 17-40mm f/4L is actually (1.6 x 17 - 40mm) 27.2 - 64mm if you are not using a full frame sensor

The EFs 18-55mm f/3.5 is actually 18-55mm with no conversion. The 's' lenses are specific for digital cameras and are intended to take out the 1.6 conversion factor.

Regards,

Dale

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