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02-07-2008 03:25 AM  10 years agoPost 1
rudderman

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I just got my futaba 401 in the mail and hooked it up to my blade 400.And all i can say is WOW!!!!!!!!.This has changed this heli completely.I have hs65mg for cycle,9257 servo for my tail and a futaba 401.And this heli is rock solid.Its like someone hit pause and its just sitting there in a hover no tail drift at all.Man do I love this blade 400.The 401 is better than I could have ever imagined.Well just had to let go of a little joy.Thanks for reading

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02-07-2008 03:46 AM  10 years agoPost 2
Drkhorse0646

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Im working on fine tuning my setup with the 500T and a 3400G but its a big improvement. good to hear yours is doing so well. Gives me hope for mine.

B400 500T ds3400G

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02-07-2008 04:13 AM  10 years agoPost 3
Torquestar

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Haha. Welcome to my world a few days ago. Got the GY401 gyro and JR DS3400G servo. Put the servo on first with the stock gyro and it got better, but still had wag.

Then I put on the GY401 and went through the centering procedure. WOW! I took it up 2 days ago in a windy day after a rainstorm. Went up to about 20-25 feet and the little heli got rocked around pretty good, but that tail stayed rock still. It did not pivot in the least. It stayed pointed in the exact same place it was.

I was amazed...

I also have the HS65MG servos for cyclic, and like them much better than stock.

I'm pretty confident in this heli now... I've only been at this whole RC heli thing since Christmas, and felt if I tried any mild 3D and the tail blew out I'd be hosed because of orientation. Now I'm confident the tail will stay put (facing towards me!). So this weekend I'll be trying some rolls and forward/backward flips.

I'm really likin this heli as well!
I just got my futaba 401 in the mail and hooked it up to my blade 400.And all i can say is WOW!!!!!!!!.This has changed this heli completely.I have hs65mg for cycle,9257 servo for my tail and a futaba 401.And this heli is rock solid.Its like someone hit pause and its just sitting there in a hover no tail drift at all.Man do I love this blade 400.The 401 is better than I could have ever imagined.Well just had to let go of a little joy.Thanks for reading

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02-07-2008 11:40 AM  10 years agoPost 4
WAFlowers

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Clearwater, FL - USA

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Reading this thread has me concerned. My LHS is trying to convince me to buy a 400 instead something which, on the surface, costs more (trex 450). However what I'm reading here in this thread and others is that the 400 is marginally OK out of the box but to make it "right" you have to buy an additional $200+ worth of better quality replacement servos and a much better gyro bringing the total cost up to $700 or so ... maybe more (I haven't priced out all the parts).

If I'm reading this correctly why not just buy a better heli to begin with?

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02-07-2008 12:35 PM  10 years agoPost 5
Tennwalker

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For what its worth i have had my Blades for about 6 weeks. One has 252 flights on it. This heli flies much better than the Trex 450's i have seen fly. Mine is bone stock out of the box but is properly set up. My tail on the stock servo is rock solid with the gyro that comes with it. I bought both of mine for $369 each and thats wayy cheaper than a Trex. A heli is a very mechanical machine and it takes time to set up properly and fine tune. I dont really feel that it takes $200 in extra parts to make it fly great just some time and tlc. Some things to check if your gettin tail wag would b first the belt tension, then the position of the pot on the gyro itself(it should b straight up and down 12 and 6 pos, which is actually zero gain on this gyro). I can do nose up or down funnels with mine and the tail wont move. Also can fly backwards 30mph and it doesnt budge. I was prepared to b unimpressed with this heli but i got a pleasant surprise thats y i went back and bought another. GOt another battery in the deal too.

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02-07-2008 01:00 PM  10 years agoPost 6
rudderman

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The blade is very good out the box IMO. But when i added the gyro it just made it better.And as for the cycling servo's they are very good. They just strip really easy.Some may think its useless buying servo's when you can get the gear set and replace them much cheaper.But i just hate rebuilding a servo after every slight tap.But to each his own.I don't regret one single upgrade on my blade.And if i was getting a trex i would have had to get the same thing for it.So this way at least i got a radio with the blade lol.

Hear ya go i broke it down for ya
http://www.helidirect.com/product_i...roducts_id=3701
This is with no radio or receiver.

This buy and fly
http://www.helidirect.com/product_i...roducts_id=4887

Which one is really the better value.

Both can use 200.00 worth in upgraded electronic.OOPS!!!! one needs the electronics before the fun begins.

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02-07-2008 01:26 PM  10 years agoPost 7
davidg51537

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I agree, this unit is a very good value for the money.

You will be more comfortable trying things with a less expensive heli to begin with.

It will force you to maximize its setup, thereby learning how to set a heli. And by the time you are really ready to upgrade a component here or there, you will be very positive about it.

I have no problem here with any of the Blades and tail wags. They appear to be setup pretty well for those of us learning or in my case, re-learning to fly.

David

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02-07-2008 01:40 PM  10 years agoPost 8
Zman

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Florida

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I agree with tenn, he suggested I check the pot on gyro and make sure it was straight up and down. it wasnt and once I made it straight up and down, the gyro has been flawless ever since. I flew it yesterday in very gusty winds and couldn't believe how stable it was. I am already thinking about getting me a second one, just wish the ones without radio were available before april.

Z

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02-07-2008 03:28 PM  10 years agoPost 9
WAFlowers

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OK, I'm beginning to feel a bit better about considering a Blade 400. It is just that I had a bad experience with a Blade CP Pro, so I'm a bit leery of e-flite products. Once bitten and all that.

I do like the cost of parts though: CPP main shaft (with molded main gear) is $5.99 at my LHS for one but the 400 main shaft is $4.99 for two. Sounds like the 400 would be cheaper to keep in the air!

Rudderman, aren't you comparing apples and oranges (Blade 400 vs. trex 450SEv2)? Wouldn't a better comparison be to the trex 450sa -- plastic head to plastic head and all that?

So given a Blade 400 with upgraded servos and gyro vs. a trex 450sa with quality servos and gyro to start, how do you think they'd compare on price?

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02-07-2008 03:33 PM  10 years agoPost 10
davidg51537

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Well you should still be lower with the Blade. The radio alone makes the deal so appealing.

When the ARF comes out, I think it will be an easier comparison.

David

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02-07-2008 03:59 PM  10 years agoPost 11
whirlydude

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That's what I was about to say. One would still need the radio and receiver, which HH was selling for 180.00. Before I got the 400 I was thinking of going with the SA. I had a 7 channel radio, so price wise for me it would have been better to go with the SA. I would still need the receiver, but could have saved 100.00 on the radio. I should have waited for just the 400 to come out and not went with the total package. I guess if my DX 7 goes down I still have a backup with the DX6i. I don't know how the SA flies, but I have no complaints about the Blade 400. It seems to be a good solid 400 class bird.

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02-07-2008 04:54 PM  10 years agoPost 12
rudderman

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Ok well lets look at it like this.

Here is the blade 400 pnp all it looks like you will need is a gyro,lipo,radio and reciever.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Product...ProdID=EFLH1475

For the trex 450 sa you will need servo's,,lipo's,radio and receiver,and gyro.
http://www.helidirect.com/product_i...roducts_id=3127

So in a sense they are very close in competetion.So there is really no better deal going with one over the other.The only thing i see are the servo's. You would come out cheaper if your going to replace servo if you go with the trex.Reason i say that is because it doesn't make sense to pay the extra price on the blade for the servo if your switching out anyways. But if your planning on keeping the stock servo's then the better deal would be the blade 400.

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02-07-2008 05:10 PM  10 years agoPost 13
Torquestar

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California

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It should also be noted that some people just like to tinker with crap. I know I do!

I didn't know anything about helis a little over a month ago. But the Blade 400 got me going at an inexpensive price point, and I've learned quite a bit. I got to fly it stock, and for me it flew just fine.

Now, I'm new at this... and the tail is probably fine for anybody skilled, but I'm not skilled. I need all the help I can get, and that included a tail that stays where it's supposed to, so I don't have to try to correct anything and send it into the dirt.

That's the only reason I upgraded... and as far as the servos, I upgraded those cause I stripped two of them out (my fault) with a couple blade strikes. Since they're only 3 bucks a gear set and about 2 minutes to fix, it's not THAT big a deal... but I had the "gotta upgrade it!" bug, so I upgrade the servos too.

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02-07-2008 05:23 PM  10 years agoPost 14
Big Electrics

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New Jersey

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Blade 400 PNP
rudderman NOTE: the Blade 400 comes with a Gyro

I only need one!

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02-07-2008 05:30 PM  10 years agoPost 15
macsgrafs

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Barnstaple, Devon, UK

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Complete Blade 400 PNP
OK guys I have found a UK site where they have the blade 400 that is READY to fly except a RX & TX. I'm sure you guys could find the same heli in the states even cheaper, but take a look at this:-
http://www.sussex-model-centre.co.u...xd.asp?id=24341

It's not called a blade, but those of us who have the 400 will recognise this instantly...I love the red tail boom, looks so much better than the eflite version.

Regards
Ross

Seems to me that ALL heli's beat the air into submission

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02-08-2008 06:30 PM  10 years agoPost 16
808heli

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Maui Hawaii

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Rudderman,

I got the same set up on my tail. 401 with a 9257. Had that set up for about two weeks now but only got to fly it yesterday because of very windy weather. Did some 3D flying and like you said ...Rock steady tail. I'm loving it

Cliff

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