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02-06-2008 01:38 PM  10 years agoPost 1
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Any of you guys see Joran Van Der Sloot admit to his buddy on tape what he knew about Natalie Halloway? I think it was on 20/20 They bugged a Land Rover with cameras and audio. His buddy drove him around trying to get him to confess. Well he did.

Scary stuff, kid has no remorse. Calling her names too. What a scum bag. If I were her Dad...I would be in jail today after seeing that. Made me sick to my stomach.

He is now saying he made it all up...I dont think so. Look at his emotion when he speaks...chilling.


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02-06-2008 03:44 PM  10 years agoPost 2
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I am afraid they will never solve this case unless he confesses or they find the body, which is long gone by now.

My wife and were on a jeep tour down there several years ago and I remember the guide stopping and showing us a place on the north side of the island. He said this was where the restaurants dumped their garbage (food) for the sharks. The water is extremely rough on the north side as well. My wife and I both said this would be the perfect place to dump a body if you ever killed somebody because the sharks have been trained to come there.

There is no way to know what exactly happened but I know Van de Sloot was involved. The problem they are saying with his "confession" was that even if he were found guilty, it would not be for murder, but for improper disposal of a body. This would get him maybe 2 years in jail. He never admitted to killing her. It sounded like from the tape, that she had drank too much and was suffering from the effects of alcohol poisoning.

The sad thing is and what will haunt her parents for the rest of their lives, is he was not totally sure she was dead. Why he did not check her pulse, who knows. But he said in the tape he wasn't sure if she was dead or not.

Whatever the case, it is very sad for that family. My thoughts and prayers go out to them. Van de Sloot will get what is coming to him, in one way or another.

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02-06-2008 03:48 PM  10 years agoPost 3
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If I were her dad, they would find Van Der Sloot's body floating somewhere. And no, I wouldn't know how his body got there.

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02-06-2008 06:08 PM  10 years agoPost 4
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the parents are at fault here also for not teaching their daughter to watch out for herself,to have respect for herself and not get drunk and "ho" around. this type of teaching starts at a very very young age so you grow up straight,have a mind of your own with a positive heading. it's a parents duty to make sure their children are capable of taking care of themselves and think for themselves because someday they will be tested and if they fail the test it can have a very bad outcome. as far as joran van der sloot and accomplices are concerned he/they had a duty to try to get help for natalie halloway and didn't do it.he/they should be severely punished. natalies parents are and will be punished for the rest of their lives with the guilt in the back of their minds knowing they could have raised natalie better. it's a cruel world, teach your kids well,start when they're babies. don't let your kids become victims, make sure they learn physical self defence as well as mental self defence.

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02-06-2008 06:47 PM  10 years agoPost 5
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If I was natalies Dad, I would feed that slimeball to those very same sharks. It didn't sound like he would only be charged with improperly disposing a body from the video I saw.

Watch it, he (Joran) states that she was taking cocaine and that he had sex with her on the beach. After that, she supposedly started convulsing. They supposedly dumped her body in the bushes and (per that landrover video) joran used a phone near the beach to call a buddy with a boat. The buddy supposedly dumped the body a mile out to sea and returned to land, then went to Jorans place to discuss.

Van dersnot's lawyer says the whole story is a lie told to that "friend" to shine him on because that is what he wanted to hear but I call BS. The lawyer says records for that phone show no call was made. Too much "fishy" going on but I don't doubt that there is some truth to it.

It's a damn shame that any girl like Natalie would go out thinking it was ok to party with a bunch of guys she had never really met before and then all her friends thought it was ok and left her. This is the kind of thing most parents probably wouldn't think there kids are going to do.

I really hope they do reopen this and nail him to the wall, make it bad enough on him and his friends will make deals to save themselves.

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02-06-2008 06:50 PM  10 years agoPost 6
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I agree that Parents need to discipline with proper teachings.

However, 'murder' is still a crime to humanity regardless whether or not one is drunk or out traveling.

One does not deserve to be slaughtered being drunk. Being drunk is a separate issue. Murder, on the other hand, has got to be dealt as a punishable crime. I believe 'an eye for an eye'. Therefore, I would not hesitate taking a life of another, if my son or daughter was murdered regardless whether or not they were drunk. Being drunk is not a crime. Driving under the influence is a crime. Therefore, one should not be punished for simply being drunk.

However, as a parent, I would never let my daughter go to a foreign land by herself, regardless of her age. That was a call Natalie's parents chose. But, she doesn't deserve to die regardless. And therefore, if the evidence heavily points to Van Der Sloot, if it were my daughter missing, his body would be found floating in a river. Especially, after watching that undercover video.

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02-06-2008 07:33 PM  10 years agoPost 7
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It's real easy to armchair quarterback something like this. Ever met her mom there mr easyrider? I have. Ever hugged her and prayed with her? I have. If you'd like, send me a videotape of you telling her how much she's at fault for this, and I'll personally deliver it to her.

What you've seen is a videotape of one side. Unfortunately Natalee is no longer with us to tell us whether or not he drugged her, whether or not he forced her to consume 151, whether or not she was still alive when he dragged her body out of sight while he planned to have her "disposed of." He says she was drunk and consuming drugs. You're hearing words from a boy who is on world trial for the disappearance and possible murder of an 18 year old girl. Might ought to consider the source before you pass judgement.

If you don't have children of your own, you'll never understand the meaning or concept of teaching your children right from wrong and hoping and praying that they always make the right choices. I have two daughters, ages 17 and 12. I know I am doing my best to raise them, and so far, they are exceeding my expectations with regards to peer pressure. Does that make me guilty of having not done the right thing if one day at age 18, either of them makes a poor decision? Or maybe when they're in their 20's?

She was 18 and a graduate of high school. What is the cutoff for saying someone is capable of leaving the country with a large group of friends and some chaperones? The US Government allows it. Uncle Sam can snatch you up and whisk you off to a foreign land to kill people at that age. You can walk into a voting booth and choose our next president. You can sign on for a life of credit card ownership that can ruin you. You can purchase a car and speed right through an intersection and kill someone. So what determines whether or not she should be allowed to leave the country?

Tony, just so you know, she wasn't alone. She was with several friends and chaperones on their post-graduate summer trip. I spent mine in the Florida gulf coast, only because I couldn't afford a trip to Cancun with some of my peers.

Don't any one of you sit behind your keyboard and preach about making right choices, because you're a liar if you say you've never done something stupid, looked back on it, and said to yourself "boy am I lucky/blessed/fortunate to still be here." If you've never done something stupid enough to have nearly paid either a dear price or the ultimate price, then perhaps you're not much older than my youngest daughter. Because it was around that age that I was riding dirtbikes, diving off high dives, riding around in cars that had little safety protection, riding in the back of pickup trucks, etc. I drove fast, I rode with friends who drove fast, I did my share of underage alcohol consumption, and I made poor choices. By the Grace of God, I am still here. He knows I am not perfect. And neither are any of you. So don't be judgemental.

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02-06-2008 07:36 PM  10 years agoPost 8
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Therefore, I would not hesitate taking a life of another, if my son or daughter was murdered regardless whether or not they were drunk.
if the evidence heavily points to Van Der Sloot, if it were my daughter missing, his body would be found floating in a river. Especially, after watching that undercover video.
What if Van Der Sloot was your son though?

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02-06-2008 07:44 PM  10 years agoPost 9
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What if Van Der Sloot was your son though?
He's not. Nor, McVeigh, Berkowitz, Bundy, Ramirez, Yates, Manson, etc.....

GMcNair,

Amen brotha!

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02-06-2008 08:01 PM  10 years agoPost 10
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I've been avoiding this post cause it simply breaks my heart but I had to look.

This strikes me the most:
If you don't have children of your own, you'll never understand the meaning or concept of teaching your children right from wrong and hoping and praying that they always make the right choices.
GMcNair, you are so exactly right. Having kids absolutely changes everything in your life. Losing a child regardless of age or circumstance is unimaginable to me.

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02-06-2008 08:21 PM  10 years agoPost 11
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mcnair,you need to get over yourself and off your high horse.if you can't raise your kid to have a better moral compass and be better prepared for life than natalie, then you can't expect a better outcome for them then. and if you can't raise your kids to be better than you then you failed as a parent. judge me all you want,it dosen't matter. i grew up wrong, made a ton of mistakes along the way however, i take parenting very serious though. i have a 20yr. old daughter,i took the time to teach her the opposite of how i grew up. i taught her not to fall for other peoples bulls$it. we taught her to make friends of the people that don't get in trouble, to not fall into the peer pressure trap, to plan ahead so you're not likely to get caught by surprise, to study and learn,to use good judgement and to be able to defend herself. now she is a 3rd. year honors student, 3rd. degree tae kwon do blackbelt, and a resident advisor at her school, dosen't believe in alcohol, smoking, cursing, showing skin or acting like a "ho". all this dosen't make her bullet proof or immune to all the pit falls in life,but it does make it less likely something bad will happen because of a loose lifestyle or ignorance of consequences. and in the event somebody did something to really bad to her i would not only destroy that person, but their family as well for raising that kind of pos. and if you would deliver a video tape like you say to her mom it makes you a real work of art.

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02-06-2008 08:38 PM  10 years agoPost 12
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No, I wouldn't deliver the tape. It was a test to see how strong your convictions are. People tend to be 10 feet tall and bulletproof behind computer monitors. You have a daughter that you have worked hard to raise. And if she made an error in judgement one evening that cost her her life, how are you going to feel when some anonymous internet stranger makes a post that you should have done better? Or when some internet stranger makes a post that you'll forever be riddled with guilt for failing as a parent? I'm not on a high horse, I'm just keeping it real. Again, you're judging Natalee (correct spelling) based on words coming from a very disturbed person. What the Twitty family and this community needs from you is less judgement and more prayer.

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02-06-2008 08:43 PM  10 years agoPost 13
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Classy and well writen posts Greg, thanks for sharing.

Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!

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02-06-2008 08:50 PM  10 years agoPost 14
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i apologise for my heartless comments,i was wrong. i don't pray but i wish you and natalee halloways family god speed.

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02-06-2008 08:56 PM  10 years agoPost 15
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He's not. Nor, McVeigh, Berkowitz, Bundy, Ramirez, Yates, Manson, etc.....
Yeah and Natalie isnt your daughter either,we all know that.I was just saying what would your feelings be if the accused was your son?

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02-06-2008 09:17 PM  10 years agoPost 16
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Thank you easyrider.

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02-06-2008 11:02 PM  10 years agoPost 17
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I have prayers to spare and many are for her though I expect the worst.

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02-06-2008 11:25 PM  10 years agoPost 18
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I hated the part when he said he was going to get payed for all of this, for ruining his families name. Kid is creepy, I do believe he did it.

I think the video is his confession.

Greg, very well said.

I plan(have been for a while now) to try and have a child next summer, yes you heard it Im going to reproduce!! look out world. I would go insane if any thing like this happens to my child...it can happen to any one, which is even scarier.


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02-07-2008 06:29 AM  10 years agoPost 19
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Yeah and Natalie isnt your daughter either,we all know that.I was just saying what would your feelings be if the accused was your son?
If it were my son, he should do the time! If the law calls for the death penalty, and if my son was guilty, then penalty by death. No exceptions, son or not.

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02-07-2008 11:16 AM  10 years agoPost 20
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Agreed

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