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02-05-2008 08:04 PM  10 years agoPost 1
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I rent a small space in a older person's home basement, part of my deal is to maintain the heat, AC and other GM. About 3 hours ago I noticed the sump wasn't coming on and we've had alot of rain so I went to check.

The pit area is about 12 inches below, at the top of the pit, from the basement floor and water had come up to about 2 inches above the pit.

The pump was seized and the motor half submerged so I went and bought a new pump as I had about 10 inches of time to install before any damage to the home occurred.

I have to say my bad as I did not check the breaker cause I assumed since the motor was immersed it would have already tripped.

Well as soon as I touched the motor case to get to the the power lead I caught 110v and I could not let go of the case. After about 2 seconds the breaker tripped letting me fall back onto the shelf. My feet were in water and I believe the only thing that save me was that I was wearing waterproof boots.

I still can't feel my arm or my hand but I'm ok. What I can't understand is why on Earth would a breaker not trip when an electric motor is submerged?

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02-05-2008 08:08 PM  10 years agoPost 2
kookboy

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I still can't feel my arm or my hand but I'm ok. What I can't understand is why on Earth would a breaker not trip when an electric motor is submerged?
What I can't understand is how you typed this !

Jesse

... But honey it was only $$$

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02-05-2008 08:13 PM  10 years agoPost 3
Furious Predator

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maybe because the water wasn't that conductive...you made a better path then the water did. technically water (pure water) will not conduct electricity, it is all the minerals and crap in it that makes it semi conductive.

glad to hear you are ok. you should look into upgrading it to a GFI, because it sounds like that is not the case. any receptical used around water should be protected by a GFI.

Shawn
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02-05-2008 08:21 PM  10 years agoPost 4
easyrider1

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glad you're ok man but i think i peed my pants a little laughing so dang hard. shawn is right about the gfci, install it or have someone install one for you and if it grabs you again it ain't installed right.good luck!

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02-05-2008 08:36 PM  10 years agoPost 5
Camp

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I'm actually in the process of putting in a GFI now. The original was hardwired to the box. I just found that the trip switch connected to the float was seized so it never came on.

I caught the 110v feed but not the capacitor voltage thank God. I think next time I'm just going to shut down the house current completely before working with electricity and water.

But, as I write this, if the capacitor were submerged shouldn't that have tripped the breaker. Now I'm wondering about the breakers and am a little afraid to go back in and re-wire this.

Is it possible a negative fault might carry current??

Sorry Guys, I'm just putting off going back down by posting here. But hey, you never know who knows what.

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02-05-2008 08:42 PM  10 years agoPost 6
SSN Pru

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uuhh, aren't sump pumps immersible to begin with?

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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02-05-2008 09:09 PM  10 years agoPost 7
bmcgrady

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If it's a pedestal pump then the motor is installed above the pit...

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02-05-2008 09:15 PM  10 years agoPost 8
spaceman spiff

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Glad you're still here.

lucky break?

or lucky breaker?

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02-05-2008 09:32 PM  10 years agoPost 9
PBusch

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Minnesota

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Actually its not recommend to use a GFCI on a sump pump and is really not needed because your supposed to unplug it before you stick your hand in the sump. Its not recommended because if it trips accidentally you loose your sump and could flood your basement.

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02-05-2008 09:37 PM  10 years agoPost 10
easyrider1

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that's why it is good to have a battery back-up pump. kind of like wearing a belt and suspenders.

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