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02-05-2008 03:08 AM  10 years agoPost 1
tutelar-rc

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Will this take the fun out of RC Helis, or get more people into the hobby???

HBK 2 heli autopilot

Note the choice of helis to experiment on...

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02-05-2008 03:14 AM  10 years agoPost 2
slider46

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That is like the secret parts on a trex only not as good...

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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02-05-2008 03:15 AM  10 years agoPost 3
Strut70

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I thought about using the stock gyro that came with my hbk2 and using it on the ailioron to see if it would keep it level Just a thought. I,m sure someone has tryed it before

If they make,em i,ll break,um

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02-05-2008 03:16 AM  10 years agoPost 4
thrstrmech

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you mean i can hold 2 beers and still fly my heli, cool sign me up for one

converting over to the "Dark Side"...Trex 450 clone...HBK2 still #1

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02-05-2008 03:25 AM  10 years agoPost 5
Strut70

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thats what i,m talkin about

If they make,em i,ll break,um

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02-05-2008 03:27 AM  10 years agoPost 6
tryan02

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Already been done before its called a coaxial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3AqyjmuhdM

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02-05-2008 04:04 AM  10 years agoPost 7
Gregor99

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Isn't this the same concept behind the flybar-less craze going on?

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02-05-2008 11:39 AM  10 years agoPost 8
Kazbah

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Looks like Jimmy Neutron got a heli for Christmas.

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02-05-2008 11:50 AM  10 years agoPost 9
DougsRC

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Thats a good question Tutelar-rc, If you make an RC heli TOO easy to fly, it takes alot of the challenge out of it. Fewer payments to the "Heli-Gods"---they may become angered
A co-ax is easy to fly--too easy. It seems like guys get bored very quickly with the co-ax helis and crave the challenge of a CP machine. Then the co-ax just becomes a toy or something to play with in the house.(see video above)
Now what if you make the larger CP machines as stable as a co-ax ??You would crash less---less monies spent----more people in the Hobby, probably, but at the same time there is something cool about having the dedication and perserverance in mastering a very difficult machine. Its like taking the road less traveled IMO I don't how many people stick with this hobby after buying thier first heli but its probably a very small percentage--this is harder than it looks

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02-05-2008 01:47 PM  10 years agoPost 10
Jerry In Maine

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Back when I was learning to fly planks I got the FMA CO-PILOT and strapped it on to the back of my .46 sized craft. Boy did it work - and totally took the anxiety out of flying and I think lessened the angle of my learning curve. You could out the plane in any attitude and take your hands off the stick and she'd level herself out in < 2 seconds. When landing just lower the throttle and point ti at the runway and she would hold a perfect slope all the way to the ground. As I got better I lowered the gain until I didn't need it anymore.

When I moved to helis I hooked it up to my NEXUS 30 and hovered the first day - although I wasnt comfortable with it. It would hold the heli dead level and wait for input from the sticks. Get into trouble and just "let go" and it would do its best to level the machine to a stable hover. Too bad I and the person who was training me had a rather major falling out - and I finally sold the heli and went back to planks.

I think such gadgets make a good training aid to get the potential pilot ove the hump. With the plank I started to get bored and eventually didn't want it getting in my way so I wanted it off. I think they can also save the fustration that comes with downtime waiting for (and paying for) parts after a crash - and if they're priced right could even save money.

Just my 2 cents..

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02-05-2008 03:56 PM  10 years agoPost 11
tryan02

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Sorry Jer Im on the otherside of the fence of you on this one. The hell I paid learning to hover the BCPP in my dining room was an experience I will always treasure?WTF Yes somehow its something you'll never forget. I upgraded to the king and found out it flew itself and immediately had to make it faster and more responsive.

Just my 5 cents (damn inflation)

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02-05-2008 04:28 PM  10 years agoPost 12
GyroFreak

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To each his own.
I'm mounting Helicommand on my gasser, 3 axis gyro stabilizer with low level optical position hold. This system is to help me recover from major OOPS conditions, it will normally be off, at least that is my current plan. I have had two crashes because of loss of orientation at a distance. With this, flip a switch and hopefully I won't be saying 'OOOhh sheeet, '..

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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02-05-2008 04:35 PM  10 years agoPost 13
GyroFreak

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Here is the perfect application for flight stabilizers.

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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02-05-2008 04:59 PM  10 years agoPost 14
Jerry In Maine

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The hell I paid learning to hover the BCPP in my dining room was an experience I will always treasure?WTF[/B]
I'm sure it was.
My experience was with a nitro heli and the smoke would be a bit much for the dining room.

Wiht the Co-Pilot I had the choice of successful - and fun - training sessions vs. coming home sad after the heli had hit the ground and rolled itself up into a ball. That can equate to big repair bills (after the initial investment) and lots of repair time. With it I was indeed flying the heli - but if I got into trouble I could let the magic box take over. It's sorta like a precision flying robot pilot with lightning quick responses on a buddy box.

If I had that option for my HBKII I'd take it. I enjoy the experience of crashing as much as I do with getting a poke in the eye, there's stuff I'd rather buy than more repair parts, and have things I'd rather do on days off and weekends than make yet another repair to an already tattered heli.

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02-06-2008 12:04 AM  10 years agoPost 15
vortechZ230

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You must be really smart!!!!

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02-06-2008 02:09 AM  10 years agoPost 16
Jerry In Maine

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I have tree stumps in my backyard that are smarter than I am...

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02-06-2008 02:25 AM  10 years agoPost 17
DougsRC

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Jerry, I have yet to see a tree stump make a homemade CNC router from scratch ! (That actually works)

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02-06-2008 03:27 AM  10 years agoPost 18
tryan02

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Ive made a polish portable wood router that works great.

Grab nearest person say hold this and squeeze trigger and you run the stock through.

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02-06-2008 06:56 AM  10 years agoPost 19
Jerry In Maine

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02-06-2008 01:05 PM  10 years agoPost 20
DougsRC

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LOOK OUT WALLY Funny Pic Jerry, But to get back on topic for a sec, my "secret project" that may or may not work is inspired by the fact that there is a HUGE "learning curve" involved in this hobby so the end result is alot of peeps quit long before they have some FUN.
The nice thing about RC helis as opposed to RC planes is you can fly them in very small spaces compared to planes for the most part. So I see the popularity of helis growing far faster than RC planes for example. Especially with quiet electric power that has improved 1000 percent in the last couple of years, no matter where you live you are far less likly to disturb your neighbors.
In closing I think making RC helis even easier to fly will promote the Hobby Even More and then us old GOATs can say----Dang Kids today---They don't even realize how Good they got it remember when we used to........................

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