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02-06-2008 06:19 PM  10 years agoPost 21
MMike

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You know Micro,

you got me thinken about the $50 or so, extra for the 401 over the G90. If one has the money, it IS worth it.
The G90 being digital ready, might for some, be a better buy than the Telebee. If they can't afford the 401.
But that's what makes this hobby interesting, so many different approaches.

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02-06-2008 06:26 PM  10 years agoPost 22
akaleus

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I'm thinking I might just need to play with the built in gyro on the 3-in-1 before I go ahead with purchasing a heading hold. How do you guys normally set your 3n1 for hovering? Do you normally crank it up or keep closer to the middle?

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02-06-2008 08:39 PM  10 years agoPost 23
Micro-Maniac

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I turned the gain up until the tail wagged then backed it off until the wagging stopped

The Proportional mix pot is really sensitive and hard to set just right so the heli won't rotate at all - Some times it takes such small adjustments you wonder if you moved it at all until you test fly it - That's another nice thing about using a HH gyro is you get to turn that mix off and not have to fiddle with it ever again

I flew mine stock without a HH gyro for quite awhile - I was able to hold sideways funnels but backwards flight seemed pretty much impossible - An HH gyro helped a lot but helped a lot more in combination with a Direct Drive tail which is only a $10 upgrade
http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?i...0098&pid=gws100

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02-06-2008 08:52 PM  10 years agoPost 24
MMike

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If one is just learning to hover, having the thing turn suddenly can be disasterous. Micro, funnels are cool, but I learned on a rate gyro.
I wished I had learned on a HH. It would have paid for itself fast.

Just my opinion.

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02-06-2008 09:03 PM  10 years agoPost 25
snobdrs

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coatesville,pa-usa

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I thought id chime in.
Learning without teaches you good tail control which helps out later on. Yes HH makes it easier so.........
Also on setting the stock 3 in 1, Even if you have it perfect on a fresh battery, as the battery discharges and loses voltage it will start to drift on ya. So really it will never be perfect. Best to set it after a min or 2 when the batt is kinda in a middle state.

Always control the tail first. As long as its pointed at ya what you do on the right stick is what happens.

Support your local hobby shop

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02-06-2008 09:25 PM  10 years agoPost 26
akaleus

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Texas

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Wow great tips guys. Currently I have the gain set a little bit short of half.

I still get a bit of a sick feeling in my stomach every time I spin the chopper up for the first time... after a copule of mins though it goes away, should I see a doctor about this? lol

On another note, I'd like to get that DD tail soon and try that out. The one thing I like about the stock BCP Pro tail is that is is very crash resistant. Will I be going through a lot of tail blades getting used to the DD?

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02-06-2008 09:28 PM  10 years agoPost 27
MMike

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I don't know.

I wouldn't be shy about beefing up the tail fin.

Guys use tie wraps to extend them to protect their tail rotor.

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02-06-2008 10:03 PM  10 years agoPost 28
tutelar-rc

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Nobleton, Ontario - Canada

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If you are just learning, stick with the stock tail. A DD tail will not help out.

If you are looking for a tail that "holds" better (not really a constraint during learning), then get a HH gyro. The HH gyro will make an 90% tail improvement during learning, the DD tail is only 10%. When you start doing real flying (loops, etc), then conside the DD tail - but your priorities may different at that time (ie. better heli).

My opinion on a HH gyro is go cheap (Esky or Telebee) or go good (Futaba GY401). I have 2 G90s and they work fine for me, but the GY401 is better. I should have gone cheap on the G90s... - could have had 4 cheapies, or 1 cheapie & 1 good.

My opinion: during learning, stay stock. Maybe a HH gyro and 2.4Ghz programmable radio. Both can help shorten your learning curve and can be used on improved helis (even on an improved BCPP). Anything else is just bling that will not help you learn.

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02-06-2008 10:05 PM  10 years agoPost 29
Micro-Maniac

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I think I went through just over a half dozen or so DD props all of last year and at 81¢ a piece and the simplicity of press on/pry off I don't even give it thought

My opinion on learning in Rate vs HH is same as my opinion on small vs large in that stability gets you further faster - I myself get a huge boost in confidence from a solid holding tail - I've been quite aware of my confidence in tail hold always being the main key to my progress - Every improvement I've made to my tail hold has been like knocking a barrier out of the way of my progression

Even with my Trex I was held back when using weak sub-micro servos on the tail until my 9257 came in then half a test flight later I felt unleashed with the confidence the tail will hold through anything so I could forget about it and just fly

I'd say DD was at least as beneficial as HH for me especially for the price but not a must have for just hovering - Don't think I've tried it without a HH gyro

You might see the expensive upgrade pattern starting to develop (HH gyro > DD tail > BL main > BL tail > Etc etc..) and that's part of why I advise to either go cheap or go all out as to not waste money on mediocre along the way

I've fed as much money through my BCP as I've spent on my entire Trex - Could have saved a lot just by cutting to the chase but at least I had some of the stuff already so why not test and use it

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02-06-2008 10:23 PM  10 years agoPost 30
akaleus

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Texas

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Micro, you're point makes great sense to me. I'd like to go bigger eventually so it seems like a great idea to me to stay mostly stock with this mirco. Then later, for my first major upgrade I can buy a spektrum radio system or something equivalent that I can use on any new heli I might upgrade to...like a T-Rex or something.

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02-06-2008 11:45 PM  10 years agoPost 31
Drkhorse0646

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Norfolk, Va - USA

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I have found the tail motor from the helimax axe cp fits right in there and adds alot of power to the tail for holding I use it on my cp and cp pro with a g90. and the helimax tail motor will last a long time.

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