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02-04-2008 04:52 PM  10 years agoPost 1
akaleus

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I'm a happy owner of an E-Flite Blade CP Pro. I'm looking at getting a heading hold gyro. I have a coupon for tower hobbies and was hoping to be able to get a good deal on one there. Have any of you tried the GWS Piezo Gyro and do you know if it will work with the CP Pro.

Here's a link to the gyro:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...p?&I=LXMSF8&P=7

Any other recommendations as far as a gyro is concerned would be much appreciated.

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02-04-2008 09:51 PM  10 years agoPost 2
Micro-Maniac

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I don't believe the GWS PG-03 is a heading-hold gyro so it wouldn't be much different from the gyro you already have built into the 3-in-1 unit

I didn't see anything worth recommending from Tower that would be plug-n-play with a stock BCP - Since these tails seem kinda finicky about what gyros will work well with them I myself really have only 2 recommendations
  1. The cheapest HH gyro you can find that will work with the 3-in-1 unit (most likely E-sky HH gyro - $38)
  2. If you're really serious about performance a GY401 for use with separate components which is kinda expensive ($120-$140 just for the gyro)
I feel that anything in-between is a waste of money on the BCP
(too much gyro to use with the stock 3-in-1 yet not up to par with the gy401 with separates)

Gyros I've tried personally:
  • E-flite G90 $85 - Works good with the stock 3-in-1 but you pay extra for the digital mode which won't work with the stock 3-in-1 and has drift issues - (E-sky HH gyro is probably just as good but without the digital mode and half the price)
  • Logictech 2100T $105 - I don't think will work with the stock 3-in-1 - Performs really well on the BCP for scale flight and mild aerobatics but misbehaved for me in harder 3D aerobatics - Works great on my Trex450 though
  • Futaba GY401 $120-$140 - Definitely would not work with the stock 3-in-1 for me but performs flawlessly with separates in all style of flight

To take advantage a gyro with digital mode you have to ditch the 3-in-1 and go separates and if you're going to spend all the money you may as well spend a bit more for something that you won't be disappointed with

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02-04-2008 10:35 PM  10 years agoPost 3
akaleus

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Thanks a lot for your input. I found a HH gyro that looks like it would work well and has some great reviews. It also comes in at about $30 less than the E-Flite G90.

Anyone have any experience with the Telebee on their BCP Pro?

Here's the link:
http://www.helidirect.com/product_i...products_id=494

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02-04-2008 10:37 PM  10 years agoPost 4
MMike

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Did you know the manual does a walk through install of a G90?

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02-04-2008 10:44 PM  10 years agoPost 5
akaleus

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Mmike,

I did notice that is has that walkthrough in the manual. Do you think that would be a good reason to go ahead with the g90?

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02-04-2008 10:48 PM  10 years agoPost 6
MMike

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I would.

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02-04-2008 10:49 PM  10 years agoPost 7
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Yeah but the G90 sucks for the price of it - You'll find lot's of complaints about it around here - I kick myself all the time for paying for that stupid thing just because it was known to work with the 3-in-1 (just not in the digital mode that you pay all the extra $ for)

A lot of people use both the E-sky and the Telebee and I haven't heard anyone complain about either - But you'd have to find that rare person who has tried both to know if the Telebee is really worth the extra $20 over the E-sky

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02-04-2008 10:56 PM  10 years agoPost 8
MMike

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I like my G90.

My other gyros are 401's. They are better. However:

For a beginner,having the recommended gyro, walk through set up, I think it's a good idea.

Again, just my opinion.

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02-04-2008 10:59 PM  10 years agoPost 9
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I'm sure the E-sky and Telebee gyros are no different and can be installed according to the BCP manual just the same at half the price and perhaps even better performance - I seriously cannot in good conscience recommend the G90 at it's price in light of my own experience with it and the availablity of these cheaper equal or perhaps even better performing gyros - $85 just for a drifty POS that matches the pictures in the manual is definitely not worth it IMO - That's over half cost of having a great performing GY401 and tail ESC

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02-04-2008 11:10 PM  10 years agoPost 10
akaleus

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Assuming that the Telebee will install in the same fashion that the G90 does it seems like a much better deal. I don't want to put a ton of money into this chopper, it's really a starter and I'll hopefully upgrade to a TREX or something in coming years. But I do want to get the hang of flying the BCP Pro before I upgrade to something else.

I've seen a lot of people say that if you can fly a BCP Pro then you can fly just about anything.

I spend all of my time at this point chasing the tail around. I'd like to be able focus a little less on that, but I know that that is part of flying a heli.

What are you thoughts?

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02-04-2008 11:19 PM  10 years agoPost 11
MMike

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One other consideration, The tail motors have history of weakening, and burning out, you will eventually want a GWS EDP-50XC

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02-04-2008 11:21 PM  10 years agoPost 12
MMike

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The above is an after market tail motor.

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02-04-2008 11:22 PM  10 years agoPost 13
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My feelings are mixed about using micros as stepping stones to larger helis - Yeah if you can fly a micro you likely can fly anything but since micros are so difficult to fly it'll likely take you a lot longer to learn on them - Either like me you just love micros or they're just something to bash on when you can't or don't want to bash on other things - As trainers micros can be both helpful and hold you back - If you really want bigger I say get bigger and use the micro to mess around with and try new things but I think the more time you spend on bigger the faster you'll actually progress

That's a lot of why I recommend either really cheap or really expensive components for the BCP - Either it's jst a basher to you or it's your pride-n-joy

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02-04-2008 11:29 PM  10 years agoPost 14
MMike

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Micro

What would you rather see a beginner buy?

HBK2 or BCPP?

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02-04-2008 11:33 PM  10 years agoPost 15
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That's part of my mixed feelings - Micros are cheap and easy to get into and fix but larger ships are easier to fly - I think cheap RTF micros are good for getting a taste to see if you're really serious about helis but larger more quality machines will take you farther faster - Put money into your micros only if micros are your thing (I've put a little money into my micros)

I myself started with nitros and regressed to micros - Flying micros has definitely seemed like slower progress for me than flying nitros but at the same time I sure never minded crashing my BCP to try new things but I sure crashed a lot - Micros are less intimidating but they're squirly

I'd say a simulator a small basher heli and a large stable heli would be the ultimate - Learn on the sim - Try on the little basher - Perfect on the big easy
Most people's idea of a little basher is a Trex450 though - Tough and cheap to fix similar to micros

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02-05-2008 12:05 AM  10 years agoPost 16
Micro-Maniac

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Oops - I misread your question

With upgrades I believe both helis can fly great but I'd recommend the HBK2 as a better value out the box and should fly better than the BCPP out of the box having a belted tail and more stabilizing mass etc

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02-05-2008 12:16 AM  10 years agoPost 17
MMike

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I agree on that.

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02-05-2008 01:18 AM  10 years agoPost 18
irush

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You know I must agree with everything here, however I do not feel that the trex is a good basher. lots more parts and setup after a crash. I love the little blade though. Of course it is no longer the cheap heli(really now...there are no cheap helis in the end, just smaller ones). I have gone brushless with the GY401 and am now going the whole 2.4Ghz thing. I have a trex 450, but I use that as the good heli, and do only the things I am confident with on. I have no metal on the blade CP. Crash the CP, you're back in the air in ten minutes, crash the trex, maybe back in the air in an hour or two.

stupid gravity......

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02-05-2008 03:03 AM  10 years agoPost 19
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Well for a lot of people a 450 is the smallest their willing to put up with - It's just like their big birds scaled down and the price of parts are similarly scaled down - They setup and fly like small squirly versions of their larger ships but not as small and squirly as 300s so they don't crash'em nearly as often and as you know 300s usually take a lot of upgrading to fly anything near like a 450

For some people a 450 is definitely a little basher in a realm of larger helis

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02-06-2008 03:27 AM  10 years agoPost 20
stebe

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my g90 drifts I would avoid

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