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02-09-2008 02:23 PM  10 years agoPost 21
aambrose

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Pretty cool promo John! Just kidding. At least it lets us see the upgrades.

Hey, are you going to offer variations of the kit for Pro1 upgrades? For instance, we don't necessarily need the folding legs, but I like the gimbal upgrade.

Thanks!


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02-09-2008 06:16 PM  10 years agoPost 22
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Yeah Tony this video will suck also but I hope it answers some questions.

First FYI you are in my shop which is two 40X60 buildings attached in an L shape. I'm only telling you this because we have 3 pretty rare cars in here and some may think it's bragging showing the 500 COBRA-R.

I had Vince show some of that car because we have been hired to run that car in the latest Fast and the Furious film. We are finalizing everything as we speak with them for this car.

Hoping while we are there I'm going to show them how the AirFoil system works and maybe get some crazy aerial shots for them? Have to see what they say. Sent a promo out 3 days ago for that.

Anyway here it is 20 megs and I'm sorry but I tried to explain things to help everyone out there. BTW in the video you see a rod on the right side I never pushed all the way down. Both side push down tight against the skids I just didn't do it. Also the mount won't cause any interference being 6061T6. That's what we make most things out of.

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Hope this helps

John

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02-09-2008 06:42 PM  10 years agoPost 23
rerazor

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Thats a very cool design and informative video.

When and how much will the upgrade kit be available?

Will the upgrade be available without the gimbal upgrade?

Thanks.

Note: Lets see the promo video with the cars.

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02-09-2008 06:54 PM  10 years agoPost 24
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02-09-2008 07:20 PM  10 years agoPost 25
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It's stronger and lighter than the Pro1.

I'm not sure what kits will be offered. Should know more the first of March where we start shipping some of these units.

I have had a 160lb girl stand on the Pro 1 and rotated her 180 degrees. It looked stupid is what the producer said.

I never shot a video of the cars with the heli ,we just sent them references and info on us and what we can do. I have some wild video's of the car but shot from the ground.

Watch for a promo video the first of the month on the mount.

John

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02-09-2008 10:36 PM  10 years agoPost 26
xcellgasman101

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Looks nice,, I do have one question,, Where are you going to put all your electronics at,, and how will you remove the head with servo leads comming from it to the rec?? Will there be just one lead,, the tilt servo to unplug?? Again, it looks to be a nice mount,, XGM/VGM

John Crotts
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02-09-2008 11:15 PM  10 years agoPost 27
aambrose

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John (Crotts),
We fitted our electronics (receiver, battery, etc.) under the stationary plate on the Pro1. The only servo leads to the gimbal are tilt servo and shutter trigger. Simply unplug those to remove the gimbal.

John (Ohnemus),
Any thoughts on a mechanism for making the legs retractable while in the air? Just wondering if the camera is mounted near the pan axis with a wide angle lens if it would capture the skids (ie Panos).

Thanks!


Tony

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02-10-2008 12:24 AM  10 years agoPost 28
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Tony

You are correct the electronics all mount on the bottom tray with the downlink on the rear plate. Everything is around the square tube or C.G. tube that is drilled to move the head forward or backward like the Pro1. None stop 360 degrees just like the Pro1. The only wire you have to unplug is the tilt servo with all the other leads on the square tube, so removing the camera head is just that easy.

First you will never see us build a retract mount. We built 3 custom units and they worked but it's just like training gear. Everyone has seen the training gear on a helicopter vibrate so they cut some off it so it vibrates less. Anything sticking out the side is going to induce vibration no matter what you do to mask it.

The mount right now is 18" between the skids and yes it was designed to cover everything we could thing of and built around what you are wanting to do but with a different idea of how.

In the video the cross tube you see on the bottom is adjustable to let you open the skids up to 17"-23" wide what ever you need. Then just tighten the 4 screws that hold the legs and you are ready.

We tried to hit the market for video and any type of still or stitch shot you maybe doing and still kept it under the weight of the Pro1.

Hope that helps a little.

John

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02-10-2008 12:36 AM  10 years agoPost 29
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Yes since shooting panos your camera is in portrait mode the option of having the "noodles" wider could eliminate them in the shot. Of course, the wider the stance the lower the gimbal is to the ground. It would have to be tested to know for sure.

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02-10-2008 12:48 AM  10 years agoPost 30
xcellgasman101

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Tony, John O.,,, Thanks, I thought it would just be the tilt servo to unplug, Do you have pic's with electronic's on board? Thanks,, XGM/VGM

John Crotts
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02-10-2008 01:01 AM  10 years agoPost 31
aambrose

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Thanks for the explanation John. Not that I think retracts are the solution -- I was just wondering how close to the pan axis a camera with a fisheye lens could be placed. With that much weight (camera + lens), it would have to be mounted as close to the pan axis as possible, but if it captures the skids, then you have to move it forward which then means you would have to counteract the weight with the KS-2. But as we know, the closer the lens is to the pan axis, the better the results. Make sense?

Thanks again!


Tony

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02-10-2008 01:18 AM  10 years agoPost 32
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At 23" the camera is still 1" off the ground.

Tony this was designed for a company that purchased several units for doing exactly what you are talking about.

The electronics picture is the same as the Pro1 if you have seen one of them. You could mount your camera in the middle and not see the skids easy with a wide angle or fish eye lens.

Look at the video where it's set at 18" how far the camera is above the table.

Talk to you guys Monday.

John

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02-10-2008 02:05 AM  10 years agoPost 33
BigD5617

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New Mount
Ok, John... can't wait to have this one. When does it hit the streets? Looks good.

Up, up and away!

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02-10-2008 03:31 AM  10 years agoPost 34
rerazor

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Ambrose,

Your talking about the entrance pupil for panos. When doing aerial panos its not nearly as crucial as on the ground with a pano head tri-pod. (This is when 'nooobs' will come in with a tutorial )

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02-10-2008 06:56 PM  10 years agoPost 35
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The new mount looks great! We're starting to do some pano's so the wider legs is just what we need. How about packaging it with a proper fitting hard case for travel?

Brad

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02-19-2008 09:21 AM  10 years agoPost 36
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03-11-2008 02:41 PM  10 years agoPost 37
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Just and FYI.

I have gotten several calls from close customers on my cell and just wanted to let the guys on the forum know we are out till then.

I will post some pics when we are back. AirFoil joined the build team in IL. for Habitat for Humanity to build homes for a week in Boluxi, Miss. Katrina is still every where here. it's hard to believe.

We should be back by Friday morning. For the guys that need quotes we start at 8:00am and quit at 9:00pm so you are pretty much dead. Will have them to you Friday afternoon.

We didn't bring any heli's, there was just no room left. All power tools and equipment to build.

The new mount will start shipping on Monday. The landing gear and head kits to update the Pro1 the following week.

Have a safe week. Hope this helps.

John

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03-11-2008 08:57 PM  10 years agoPost 38
Perry Kavros

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John evrything looks great, any thoughts on an option for belt drive on the tilt servo? would be curious to hear what you might have to say about the pro's and con's of it. Keep up the great work.

Perry

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03-13-2008 03:11 AM  10 years agoPost 39
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Perry I will be heading back late 2morow. Yes I have tested belts and pulleys but didn't like the results after a month or so of use.

I understand how some say gear mesh can cause slop but with the Slipper clutch for camera safety and the aluminum spacers now used with o-ring dampening it doesn't matter what the gear mesh is it will be smooth and hold well. The last 6 months the Pro1 mounts got the new tilt servo and gear design. No more servo horn it's a cnc'ed gear with the bracket design changed to assure no slop.

I hope this explains what we have designed for a solid unit.

Thanks Perry

John

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03-20-2008 06:38 PM  10 years agoPost 40
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Very nice and quite innovative, John. The adjustability of the skid width and "foldability" will be quite nice.

Any pricing details as of yet?

(And ... a huge pat on the back for your contribution to HfH in MS ... lots of folks talk about doing, but few step up to the plate)

meflyjeep

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