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02-02-2008 04:14 PM  11 years ago
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Futurac

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New Radio from Futaba
This is one of the new products coming from Futaba.
This and other news will be shown at Nuerenberg Show 7-12 feb


Radio will be avaliable in normal frequencies and with special TM-10 module in 2.4ghz.

Fully expanded ten-channel computer system of superior quality, with 2.4 GHz FASST technology. The FASST system is a Spread Spectrum system with frequency hopping (FHSS), and is therefore permitted to transmit a maximum power of 100 mW EIRP. This gives it adequate reserves even for large-scale model aircraft and jets.

No crystals, no spot frequency selection, maximum security from same-channel interference.

Virtually interference-free due to Spread Spectrum modulation, frequency hopping and encoding from transmitter to receiver using more than 130 million codes.

Please see the FASST introduction page for a detailed description of the advantages of 2.4 GHz FASST technology.

Focal point of the transmitter is the large, high-resolution 160 x 72 dot graphic screen with extra-large dots for good legibility. All settings are entered and displayed using the screen itself. The system is very simple to program using the four control buttons, the 3-D hotkey and the graphical user interface.

New precision dual-axis stick units with digital trims and variable trim increments eliminate the need to make trim adjustments or store trim values when you switch model memories. The trim values are displayed on the LCD screen in bar graph form.

The side-mounted rotary controls provide a practical means of operating supplementary functions without letting go of the primary sticks.

The transmitter is fully expanded as standard, with five analogue rotary controls and eight switches; no additional accessories are required. The switches and other transmitter controls can be assigned to virtually any function.

New feature: logical switch function for switches and sticks.

Comprehensive software provides all the essential facilities even for power models, gliders and helicopters with extensive functions.

Plenty of freely programmable mixers are available with up to 5-point curves for setting up very complex mixer functions.

The transmitter can also operate in FM or PCM transmission mode; the FM-TW 10 RF module is required for this. It is then compatible with all current FM and PCM-1024 receivers in the robbe/Futaba range.

In FASST 2.4 GHz mode the system offers a total of ten channels (eight proportional, two switched channels).
The software is available in six languages: German, English, French, Italian, Spanish and Dutch.

Integral H3 (1:1:1) swashplate mixer for CCPM rotor head control (140°), plus H4X for 45° swashplate rotation.

Integral Trainer system with individual function transfer.

With charge socket, i.e. prepared for use with rechargeable batteries.

The stick units are designed for Universal mode, and can be converted by the user from "throttle right" to "throttle left".

Fifteen internal model memories, with infinite expansion using CAMPac modules:
4k CAMPac module = 1 model
16k CAMPac module = 4 models
64k CAMPac module = 16 models
16 x 64k CAMPac module = 256 models

Functions

Model select, fifteen internal model memories, can be expanded by up to sixteen models per 64k CAMPac module

Operating hours counter: 0 ... 99h:59mDigital operating voltage display

Stick modes 1 ... 4

Throttle reverse function

Model copy

Trainer mode with individual function transfer and mix mode operation.

LCD contrast adjustment

Graphical servo travel display with servo test

User´s name (ten characters)

Digital stick trims

Model functions

Model name (ten characters)

Three separate stopwatches (one model memory-specific)

Servo reverse, channels 1 - 8

Fail-safe (channels 1 - 8), PCM and FASST only

Mixer select menus for power, glider and helicopter

Servo travel adjustment, channels 1 - 8 (ATV / EPA)

Reset

Trim travel adjustment and trim memory

Idle trim with reverse (ATL)

Free assignment of transmitter controls for channels 5 ... 10

Switchable modulation, FM / PCM1024

Servo centre adjustment (channels 1 - 8)

Three logical switches (switch and / or stick)

Basic functions

4 x Three-point programmable mixers, with / without trim and offset mixing

4 x Five-point programmable mixers, with / without trim and offset mixing (helicopter: only 2 x)

3 x Switchable control travel (D/R)

3 x Exponential function, EXP (acro: 4 x)
Power models (Acro)

Flaperon mixer with differential and separate end-point adjustment

Flaperon trim (flaperon mixer value)

Second aileron mixer with differential, output to channel 5 or 6

Airbrake (ailerons as camber-changing / landing flaps)

Elevator -> flaperon mixer

V-tail mixer (V-tail)
Delta mixer (elevons)

Separate elevators as ailerons (ailvators)

4 x snap-roll (aileron / rudder / elevator)

Idle-up (increased idle)

Speed adjustment for throttle servo

Mixer adjustment with five-point curve and speed adjustment

Throttle cut

Idle 2 adjustment

Gyro gain adjustment menu

Gliders (two servos)

Flaperon mixer with differential and separate end-point adjustment

Flaperon trim (flaperon mixer value)

Second aileron mixer with differential, output to channel 5 or 7

Butterfly (Crow) for ailerons and camber-changing / landing flaps, with offset and delay for elevator function.

Butterfly - spoiler mixer with offset

Camber-changing flap mixer (aileron, flap, elevator, with delay)

Aileron -> flap mixer

Aileron -> rudder mixer

Elevator -> flaperon mixer

V-tail mixer (V-tail)

Delta mixer (elevon)

Launch and Speed trim menu for ailerons, flaps and elevator, with trim function

Motor cut

Gliders (four servos)

Flap trim (camber-changing / landing flap mixer value)

Flaperon trim (flaperon mixer value)

Second aileron mixer with differential, output to channel 5 or 7

Butterfly (Crow) for ailerons and camber-changing / landing flaps, with offset and delay for elevator function.

Butterfly - spoiler mixer with offset

Camber-changing flap mixer (aileron, flap, elevator, with delay)

Aileron -> flap mixer

Aileron -> rudder mixer

Elevator -> camber-changing / landing flap mixer

V-tail mixer (V-tail)

Camber-changing / landing flap -> aileron mixer

Aileron -> camber-changing / landing flap mixer

Launch and Speed trim menu for ailerons, flaps and elevator, with trim function

Motor cut

Helicopters

Swashplate mixers: H1, H3, HR3, HN3, HE3, H4, H4X (45°)

Swashplate adjustment (AFR - roll, pitch-axis, collective pitch)

Seven-point throttle curve, normal, idle-up 1, 2 and 3, with delay

Seven-point collective pitch curve, normal, idle-up 1, 2 and 3 and auto-rotation

Revo-mixer with five-point curve, normal, idle-up 1, 2 and 3

Swashplate - throttle mixer

Tail rotor - throttle mixer

Gyro gain adjustment menu:
- Standard with three rates, 0 ... 100 %
- GY with three rates, 0 ... +/- 100 % (normal / AVCS), flight mode-dependent

Governor set-up menu (speed regulator), flight mode-dependent

Throttle trim, hover

Collective pitch trim, hover

Auto-rotation with tail rotor offset

Dual offset mixer for roll, pitch-axis and tail rotor functions

Variable delay for the tail rotor function; H1: also for roll and pitch-axis functions

Mixer adjustment with five-point curve for three flight modes

Motor cut
Alex (Formerly Known as RCMarket )
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02-02-2008 04:51 PM  11 years ago
jet78

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wow... looks just like my 12FGH.. but a smaller version..hehhehhe

looks like a winner!
Knight Rider...
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02-02-2008 05:46 PM  11 years ago
Raptile

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Yeah Cant wait to see more pictures
Does have the display light?
How much it will be cost?

Futaba FASST 12FG | Raptor 90 V-Max V-BAR 4.0| Henseleit TDR 4.0 | PiroFreak =)
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02-02-2008 05:52 PM  11 years ago
fritzthecat

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CAMPACs?!!?? OMFG what are they thinking. Is Futaba trying to get rid of the 1000s they have in stock but nobody ever bought because that is the only reason I can see for not going to industry std memory cards.
15 Model memory. My watch can hold more.
And it looks like it's a 8+2 radio. 8 regular channels and 2 switching. Just like the current 9ch radios are 8+1.

Wonder if the ZGUID bug will be fixed in this FASST system.

Nice radio, for 1980.

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02-02-2008 06:37 PM  11 years ago
Dr.Ben

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Industry standard for what price range??? For what mfg?? Is there a specific liability to the CAMPAC that you'd care to detail? Or has it been a problem in your current 15 year old technology 9ZHPS?

They use cards in the 12's and 14. The last time I checked, JR had NO memory card system in ANY of their USA marketed radios, including the new 12X.

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02-02-2008 06:52 PM  11 years ago
MJWS

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Only wish they had them out earlier. Thanks for finding this. Sure hope they do a bunch of rx's as well.

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02-02-2008 11:22 PM  11 years ago
baby_zyklon

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Seems like its a 9c replacement? Wonder if futaba has solved the latency issue. Is this new radio on fasst at 1024 resolution or 2048?
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02-03-2008 12:16 AM  11 years ago
RCHelicopterGuy

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First, the 14MZ came out. Then, the 12Z came along offering nearly equal capability for almost $1000 less and possibly sharked away some of their own 14MZ sales.

After that, the 12FG hit the market, and dang if I can tell a significant difference in functionality. And what else, you ask? That's right... it's less expensive. I have to wonder how many potential 12Z sales went to the 12FG.

Now we have (ostensibly) a 10-channel version of the 12FG?? The smart money says this will be less expensive than the 12FG. You gotta wonder how many potential 12FG sales will go to the "lesser" model.

I'm starting to wonder what the product planning strategy meetings sound like at Futaba!
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02-03-2008 12:33 AM  11 years ago
Nate735

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From Tower:

Futaba 7ch 2.4ghz 279.0

Futaba T10. I'm guessing around 700-800 MSRP

Futaba 12FGH 2.4GHz - 1199.99
Futaba 12Z 2.4GHz - 1499.00
Futaba 14MZ 2.4GHz - 2299.0
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02-03-2008 12:38 AM  11 years ago
hootowl

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Nice big screen but looks like larger characters take up the space. Must be the "Accessibility Option"

I personally would like to see mag cases.

I think the 10 channel is a trump move over the competitions 9 channel alternatives.

One thing Futaba has going for them is I think they have a very good 2.4 scheme. I am loving my 12Z with the TM-14 setup.
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02-03-2008 02:19 AM  11 years ago
enahs

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Interesting. I'll definitely keep an eye on this. I'd love to stick with Futaba when I go 2.4.---------
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02-03-2008 02:44 AM  11 years ago
cub2000

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OMG...this is just what I've been waiting for, a Futaba 2.4ghz 9-channel radio.

When can we see this in the US market?
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02-03-2008 04:15 AM  11 years ago
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Industry standard for what price range??? For what mfg?? Is there a specific liability to the CAMPAC that you'd care to detail? Or has it been a problem in your current 15 year old technology 9ZHPS?

They use cards in the 12's and 14. The last time I checked, JR had NO memory card system in ANY of their USA marketed radios, including the new 12X.
Lets be real here, Ben. I just put a SanDisk Ultra® II SD™ 2GB memory card in my Palm TX PDA. That's right, a $260 PDA. I got the 2GB SD card from BestBuy for $20 shipped to my door.

Going back to CAMPACS is like a bad dream.

While JR has not had a memory card system in their radios they have had the DataSafe available for many years to enable models to be backed up to a PC. This is something Futaba never developed for their CAMPACS.
  
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02-03-2008 05:00 AM  11 years ago
MJWS

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You can buy aftermarket campac's pretty much as large as you'd like. They need to differentiate the radio on a few levels. I'd just as soon they did it with that. That said it would have been a pretty big step if they could start making the mid range radio's software updateable like the 12fg and up.

It should be priced right in line with the X9303 and will sell well if they manage that.

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02-03-2008 05:11 AM  11 years ago
Ace Dude

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It's 2008. There's no reason to use a non-standard external memory technology.

By using a standard memory expansion system (CF, SD, etc.) you can easily backup your models to a PC using a card reader you probably already have or can buy at many of your local stores. Try doing that with a CAMPAC....
  
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02-03-2008 05:53 AM  11 years ago
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They use cards in the 12's and 14.
Yes, exactly. Why regress to a Campac? Tower doesn't even sell the 64k 9Z campacs anymore. I'd have to buy the 128k aftermarket one for U$60. That is 128k as in KILOBYTE. As mentioned above, a 2 GIGABYTE SD card is U$20. There is no excuse for this. With a SD card and a cardreader somebody can write a program to play with the #s on a PC.

And why not make the SW field upgradeable? It would make fixing screwups like the ZGUID a lot easier.
There is very little in the T10 that doesn't already exist in my 10 year old 9Z.
OMG...this is just what I've been waiting for, a Futaba 2.4ghz 9-channel radio.
It's still a modular system. Not a dedicated 2.4 TX with the FASST build in. And it takes a different FASST module than the 12 and 14 Txs. Since it's 8+2 channels in FASST and PPM/PCM, the TM-10 module most likely uses the PPM/PCM input.

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02-03-2008 09:01 AM  11 years ago
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I am right with futaba with the Campac.
If they put a CF or SD on the radio, they are forced to make an updatable radio like 12Z,12FG and 14MZ.
Many people are dissapointed because a 12FG and a 14MZ has simmilar functions and one cost half the other. If they make an updatable radio, they are forced to hear the customer about possible updates, and the customer will want a 10 channels 14MZ but with the 9C prize.
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02-03-2008 09:41 AM  11 years ago
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I agree with an industry standard media card but to be honest with you I don't have more than 5 models let alone fifteen. I too don't like manufacturer specific doo-dads that have a commercial counterpart.

I'm thinking a few things here. Compatibility being one. I believe some cards won't work in the 12/14 radios.

We won't have to worry about software updates because like their advertisement says, they get it right the first time

I guess we have to remember, these are tiered levels of radios. If the trend continues, 12 being half the cost of the 14 than this radio should come in at $500, radio alone. Certainly a step up from the 9C. I think we should be comparing it to the 9C not the 12/14.
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02-03-2008 11:33 AM  11 years ago
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If they put a CF or SD on the radio, they are forced to make an updatable radio like 12Z,12FG and 14MZ.
No, they are not forced to make an upgradeable radio at all. The memory card can be used to simply copy models between radios or to a PC for backup or sharing.
  
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02-03-2008 10:34 PM  11 years ago
RCHelicopterGuy

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Nice big screen but looks like larger characters take up the space.
Maybe a joint effort between Futaba and the "Reader's Digest - Large Print Edition" people?
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