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02-08-2008 12:32 AM  10 years agoPost 61
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yeeeaa,,,, what he said
all in fun guys

just fly and be happy !!

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02-08-2008 12:46 AM  10 years agoPost 62
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I agree completely, fly and have fun. I really dislike how everyone tries to turn our awesome hobby into a pissing match...

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02-08-2008 12:50 AM  10 years agoPost 63
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I dont hate the trexs, ive had two 450SE's, the align helis are just not my first choice. I figure this, The only reason most of you have align helis, is because of one thign, one word..."SZABO" What if he was flying century helis right now, any guesses on what 95% of the world would have? "fanboy's" i call them
Lets be honest here - you know very well that I and other guys you have flown with do not buy helis based on who else is flying them. I really think the Szabo name may have more influence on those in your age group. so you may be right with them, but those of us in the next age bracket and up work a little differently from what I have experienced. Anyway, just food for thought bro To put it simply, we fly what we want because we enjoy them - which is the point of a hobby I feel bad for the sponsored pilots that are limited in which models they can own. (but I do envy their flying skills and, at times, the discounted items they get )
I have a swift 16, and a swift 620SE. I have seen many 600e's, and know enough to not want one. Here is a video fo my swift 16. Half the cost of a trex 500/600E, and does more that ive seen a 600 do,
The Swift 16 is a fine bird, but you and I have been at the same funflys often enough to see that the Trex 600 has absolutely no problem doing any maneuver the 16 can do.

I am looking forward to LONG TERM flight reports on the Swift 620SE, but there are none out there yet - heck you have had yours less than a week - get flying

The only people who can honestly post the differences in this thread are those pilots that have owned both helis for enough time to get a real feel for them. And even then, its still going to be only based on their experiences with them.

Anyway, these type of threads are pretty much worthless (no offense to the OP). What people look for in a heli is unique for each one of us, so the final opinion of one person or ten persons means little. basically, if you really want to know which is "best" take a look at both weighing whats most important to you and take a stab at one. If you can try both out, then you will find out quickly which you like the most.

As long as you enjoy your heli, we are all happy - no need to make it into a contest....



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02-08-2008 01:45 AM  10 years agoPost 64
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Well said jim, well said! The szabo factor does influence mostly my age group, but think about it...most guys who want the utmost in peformance, no matter the risks, are my age, or close. Alot of adults see it that way, but are not as experienced as you.

No doubt the 600 is very capable, and a nicely setup one can equal or do better in some moves, but comparing a 30 to a 50 is like a rex/BCP, i dont think it can be justified too well, but thats just IMO.

No doubt on the 620, ive had it since monday So far its looking great, i talked to the century pilots in cali, they said theyre loving theirs, but again...most 600 owners love theirs as well.

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02-08-2008 04:46 PM  10 years agoPost 65
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cant wait to get my 620se! i fly my heli's hard and will let everyone know how it holds up, should be here tuesday or wednesday.

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02-08-2008 11:55 PM  10 years agoPost 66
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eeeeky don't forget pros have their own choices on what they can fly for brand lets get that cleared up. Century had big names like HC walk away cause the helis couldn't handle his abuse, so I would not say just because ASJ was flying a Century heli that everyone would go buy it. Sure it would not hurt their sales but I doubt it would shift the tables completly around. Besides if in fact it were all in the hands of these pilots "sales that is" then why would Century not have ASJ or Danny J flying for them right now?, heck why limit the cheque book in that case if this "fanboy" theory of yours was correct? Seriously now....think about what you are saying there...

At any rate at the end of the day, fly what you enjoy and keep the hobby fun for yourself and everyone, cheers.

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02-09-2008 02:45 AM  10 years agoPost 67
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""pros have their own choices on what they can fly for brand lets get that cleared up""

yeea, lets clear that up good> fact is (excepted CY) Pros do move around, and money has alot to do with it !! surely you don't actually think CY is flying JR because it's the best 3D heli do you,, and you surely don't think the Boys flew TT because Raptors were the best 3D helis,, let me tell you~ when a Pro moves he gets a bigger pay check and a better contract,,, and you don't think 99% of the paid pilots (inside the US) fly OS because it's the best engine, let me tell you there are many better engines than OS !!

""Century had big names like HC walk away""

""walk away cause the helis couldn't handle his abuse""

geezz, now you could say something like that about any brand couldn't you, I mean you don't see HC working for TT, Align or Hirobo do you,,

fact is the "fanboy" theory and big names IS somewhat true, look at the RJX Hobby Xtreme 50, for about the same price the Xtreme is a much nicer heli than the Align 600N, yet is the Xtreme the heli everyone just has to have "NO", no fanboy or big name there !!

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02-09-2008 03:04 AM  10 years agoPost 68
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Hey I am not saying the fanboy theory doesen't hold some water you bet it does, I am saying if it was completly true then why would Century not be paying up the buck to get the big boys? Who is their stud right now? Secondly the RJX does look like a sweet machine, but remember it really just came out, I would think after 6 months they to will have a roster of their own for sponsored pilots.

In regards to the other comments, there have been recent vids of HC flying the Gohbee heli which is not the Avant Aurora in case that is what you are thinking about. As well there are several vids of him flying his 8S t-rex 600 as well.

In conclusion and to note one thing that may not get pasted on this or any forum is the fact that several pros have dropped brands from one to another for same or less cash cause they want the best so that they can perform to their best. Be that a heli, a gyro or servo etc it happens, it is not all about the dollar either man.

At any rate as I said, fly what you like but lets at least be honest about the facts in the end.

Back to the beef at hand that was being debated is the pitch range and cyclic range on the swift does not exist out of the box, that is one thing I still as well am very suprised they have not attended to and still advertise it as a 3D heli. All imho of course, last post on this thread fellas, be well and have fun.

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02-09-2008 03:49 AM  10 years agoPost 69
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No worries guys i already ordered the 620se! So its ok you guys dont have to argue

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02-09-2008 04:27 AM  10 years agoPost 70
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I was not going to say anything else, but I feel I have to. What triggered me to say anything at all here was not my opinion of Century or its products to be honest. It was the thought that when I read many of the posts in this thread it seems to be conveyed to me at least that several of you feel the pros are puppeteered which gets me abit hot under the collar. The pilots are still people like all of us and I do know they do this for more than the money as well they can and do make their own choices.

At any rate, that's that. Mehalko have fun with your purchase, be well.

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02-10-2008 03:14 AM  10 years agoPost 71
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I wanna chime in here for a second. eeeeky you know as well as I do that you just made an apples and oranges comparison. I fly the Swift 16 and T600 and Im here to tell you there is no comparison. The T600 will blow the 16 away with no sweat.

The only thing the 16 is really good for is to put into a scale body. It does not out perform the T600 in 3D, never happen buddy. Its first problem is that it doesnt have a driven tail and it goes on from there.

I like my Swift 16 for certain things but when it comes to 3D and replacement parts cost the T600 is the way Ill go. On top of that with the problems Iv had with Century it will be a cold day in hell that I buy another machine from them.

Fly it like its a rental...

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02-10-2008 03:54 AM  10 years agoPost 72
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funny how that other Century/Align doesn't agree with you..

lets all agree that we disagree, just to get this crap over with..

Jim

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02-10-2008 06:12 AM  10 years agoPost 73
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Pulsar, how much can you buy a t600 airframe for? last price i saw was 350...how much can you buy a swift airframe for...last i saw was 150. Drive yourself out here, and ill let you compare your t600 to my 16, which has 6s, and the 600+ outrunner...youll change your mind

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02-10-2008 06:39 AM  10 years agoPost 74
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The T600 will blow the 16 away with no sweat.
Actually, if you run both on 6S(which is what the 600 was designed for), the T-REX will be boggy and your flight times will be limited. Like I said before, it comes down to weight and the 600 needs 8S or greater to perform at the same level as the Swift on 6S.

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02-10-2008 06:46 AM  10 years agoPost 75
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I agree, i got to see a 600 try and do hard hard 3d on 6s, didnt do too well after about 2 mins..batts were hot, and p ower practically dissapeared. I ahve yet to run a full pack on the 620, or with 610mm blades, but when i do, theyll be flight reports.

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02-10-2008 07:34 AM  10 years agoPost 76
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over one year old.

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02-10-2008 07:45 AM  10 years agoPost 77
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Its first problem is that it doesnt have a driven tail and it goes on from there.
The 620se has a drivin tail, i was not asking for a 600cf and swift 16 comparison, the 620se is a LOT different than the swift 16

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02-10-2008 07:56 AM  10 years agoPost 78
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over one year old.

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02-10-2008 08:17 AM  10 years agoPost 79
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I love that video, but again, BOGGY(not to mention hard on batteries!). The Swift's cyclic rate can be every bit as rapid, if not more. That's completely dependent on your blade/paddle combination, bell/hiller ratio, etc. The 600's saving grace is it's wide collective range. The available pitch offers plenty of collective authority, but at the expensive of overloading the motor. It does well, though IMHO, not in the most efficient way.

I'm putting together a Swift 620SE and planning on running a Century 600+ on 6S spinning RotorTech 560s. It'll basically be a stretched Swift 550 Carbon and I'm fully confident that the power will STILL be head and shoulders above a T-REX 600 on 6S. I'll post a hard 3D vid as soon as I can.

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02-10-2008 08:23 AM  10 years agoPost 80
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over one year old.

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