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02-05-2008 12:23 AM  10 years agoPost 101
bigdad390

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an airplane was sitting in a wind tunnel that was infinitely large and the wind generater was designed to match the forward speed of the plane from behind, can the airplane take off?

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Yes.
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Wrong. Wanna bet?
No I after reading it again, I have to think about it.

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02-05-2008 12:30 AM  10 years agoPost 102
spork

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1stPlace, I have a hard time believing that any I.Q. test assigns a numerical value to reading comprehension. Can you provide any evidence of this?

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02-05-2008 12:43 AM  10 years agoPost 103
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the FAA even calls on me to help interpret their regulations when they are in a sticky situation, and I have been called on a few times to give my professional opinion of aviation regulation and liabilties in court.
^^^ Even more frightening.

I dare you to print this (below) and hand it to your FAA contact the next time he/she calls. Will you do it?

I'll give a hundred bucks to a (non-religious) charity of your choice if you do.
If an airplane was sitting in a wind tunnel that was infinitely large and the wind generater was designed to match the forward speed of the plane from behind, can the airplane take off?
In this hypothetical, the plane would definitely take off. - 1stPlace

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02-05-2008 12:56 AM  10 years agoPost 104
spork

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I dare you to print this (below) and hand it to your FAA contact the next time he/she calls. Will you do it?
More than likely the FAA contact wouldn't be within arms reach when he calls. Was that a trick question - to determine his I.Q.?

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02-05-2008 01:24 AM  10 years agoPost 105
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1stPlace, I have a hard time believing that any I.Q. test assigns a numerical value to reading comprehension.
IQ tests come in many forms, and some tests use a single type of item or question, while others use several different subtests. Most tests yield both an overall score and individual subtest scores.

A typical IQ test requires the test subject to solve a fair number of problems in a set time under supervision. The most widely used standardized test for determining IQ is the WAIS (Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale-Third Edition)[citation needed]. The WAIS-III consists of fourteen subtests, seven verbal (Information Comprehension, Arithmetic, Similarities, Vocabulary, Digit Span, and Letter-Number Sequencing) and seven performance (Digit Symbol-Coding, Picture Completion, Block Design, Matrix Reasoning, Picture Arrangement, Symbol Search, and Object Assembly).

Pearson Education, Inc., the publisher of the Wechsler Intelligence Scale, has announced that the next version, the WAIS-IV, is to be released in 2008.

Is that enough for you Spork?
I dare you to print this (below) and hand it to your FAA contact the next time he/she calls. Will you do it?
No, that would be incredibly unprofessional! Why would you even think to do such a thing?

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02-05-2008 01:26 AM  10 years agoPost 106
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that would be incredibly unprofessional!
We may finally be making some progress.
Why would you even think to do such a thing?
Because it might have some bearing towards the FAA being more able to assign an accurate value to your potential contributions towards their goals.

What do you think the 'powers that be' you deal with there would think if they knew that was YOUR answer to THAT question?

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02-05-2008 01:27 AM  10 years agoPost 107
spork

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Is that enough for you Spork?
Well, it doesn't sound like an I.Q. test to me. But I guess that's what it says.

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02-05-2008 01:35 AM  10 years agoPost 108
1stPlace

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Because it might have some bearing towards the FAA being more able to assess an accurate value to your potential contributions towards their goals.
Yes, handing them a poorly worded, insignificant, completely irrelevant pondering would help them to evaluating that I am wasting their time and resources for no good reason.

That'll impress em'

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02-05-2008 01:39 AM  10 years agoPost 109
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poorly worded, insignificant, completely irrelevant pondering
What's poorly worded about it? It's grammatically correct and unambiguous. It's far from insignificant -- look how much energy you're expending trying to convince folks you're right about something you're wrong about!

It is a pondering though -- a pretty damn good one from where I'm sitting.
If an airplane was sitting in a wind tunnel that was infinitely large and the wind generater was designed to match the forward speed of the plane from behind, can the airplane take off?
In this hypothetical, the plane would definitely take off. - 1stPlace

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02-05-2008 01:45 AM  10 years agoPost 110
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What's poorly worded about it?
Forward Speed Defining this phrase makes the difference between 100% Certainty of take off, or a debatable take off.

If an airplane was sitting in a wind tunnel that was infinitely large and the wind generater was designed to match the forward speed of the plane from behind, can the airplane take off?

In other words, No airspeed=No wind speed
So, if forward speed is defined as airspeed, then you have take off. There is no debate.

Define forward speed as speed relative to a fixed point, and you have a debate.

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02-05-2008 01:48 AM  10 years agoPost 111
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What's poorly worded about it?
Forward Speed Defining this phrase makes the difference between 100% Certainty of take off, or a debatable take off.
Like many before you, you've imagined criteria into the meaning of the words in the question that are neither stated nor implied. You're incorrect in your assessment of the meaning of those words, and therefore you're wrong in your answer to the question.

1stPlace, I'm sure you're not a bad guy, but YOU'RE WRONG!!!

Why is this so hard for you to admit?
the wind generater was designed to match the forward speed of the plane from behind
What's so bloody ambiguous about THAT???

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02-05-2008 01:51 AM  10 years agoPost 112
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Gimbal - as usual, you are WRONG.

This riddle is a little different from the treadmill one in that, as 1stplace pointed out, there are 2 distinct methods for measuring "speed" as the original question is stated. One could assume that by speed, the author was referring to airspeed, but then again he could also have intended it to be interpreted as ground speed, otherwise known as the speed that would register were there a radar gun affixed to the inside of the windtunnel. I pointed this out in my first post in the thread.

To chastise someone for seeking clarity for the sake of making an informed decision is sort of silly, IMO. After all, isn't that what science teaches us? To ask the proper questions?



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02-05-2008 01:56 AM  10 years agoPost 113
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Gimbal - as usual, you are WRONG.
Wrong again. Back to school for you too. Sit next to 1stPlace so you can compare notes, although I'm not sure it would help either of you.

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02-05-2008 01:58 AM  10 years agoPost 114
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Thank you Mike, at least someone here gets it
1stPlace, I'm sure you're not a bad guy
Awe, how touching... and I was just about to make you the first one on my ignore list Just kidding, your entertainment value is only preceded by the comic relief of Bush & Co.

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02-05-2008 02:00 AM  10 years agoPost 115
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If you're gonna quote a sentence, quote the WHOLE sentence please.
I'm sure you're not a bad guy, but YOU'RE WRONG!!!
You're wrong, man. You and Mike need to get together for however many study periods it takes to straighten out your thinking on this.

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02-05-2008 02:02 AM  10 years agoPost 116
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If a forum was filled with a bunch of jackasses that couldn't get a clue, would we all get annoyed?

will wash your heli for a quarter

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02-05-2008 02:05 AM  10 years agoPost 117
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The offer to bet on the outcome of the original question still stands.

1stPlace, I'll happily match your $10k in an escrow account pending the outcome of a wager.

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02-05-2008 02:38 AM  10 years agoPost 118
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Gimbal - you couldn't be more wrong, AGAIN!!!

You need to learn to read what's being written instead of jumping at the author. I made a perfectly LOGICAL and VALID point as to the ambiguity of the original question, but...

Oh, nevermind, you're just gonna sound like a broken record again. Talking with you is as futile as nailing jello to a tree, sad really.

PS - quick, run to dictionary.com and look up "ambiguous"!! What the hell is Mike talking about???



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02-05-2008 02:41 AM  10 years agoPost 119
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sad really.
For you, maybe -- but I don't really care one way or another how you feel about it. I feel no need to waste energy on those whose thinking carries no weight. If that saddens you, then try a Red Bull. Coffee is good too but it takes time to prepare, and you need to drink more of it.

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02-05-2008 02:44 AM  10 years agoPost 120
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I don't really care one way or another what you think about it.
Wrong.



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