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02-05-2008 07:01 PM  10 years agoPost 161
alcastan

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look at the size of that muffler!!!, I bet it´s going to look great with the canopy on!!

Do I smell gas burning really close?

Alejandro,

Momma used to say, life's like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get!

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02-05-2008 07:15 PM  10 years agoPost 162
copperclad

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What's next?
thanks guys , i don't know about you but i want to fly it!

you know it was masonite a week ago , and it has been put completely together and taken completely apart every day since then , it is still in the assembly stages , so i will tear it down again at least once to cut the two switch locations into the frame , i still have to mount the magnets in the fan and then mount the fan to the engine , at that point though i will be ready for final assembly , and i am ready , believe me , the work seems to go fast at first , but the more you get done the slower it goes as there are more things to consider , i know Peter is familiar with this and his R-90 , everytime you assemble it you find one or two other things , besides what you are working on that need attention , and you keep thinking , "i just about have it!" , only to find somehting else , next time you are putting it back together , all in all i enjoy building , an a project like this , for me , it just dosen't get any better , so i am in hog heaven , thanks again , dana

PS: i put everything on my scale , blades 620mm , canopy , both flight packs , the EI unit , the starter , and the heli as pictured and the AUW looks to be right at 10 lbs or 4.5 Kg

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02-05-2008 07:27 PM  10 years agoPost 163
copperclad

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look at the size of that muffler!!!,
hi Alejandro

the muffler in the photo is a V2 and i just popped it on to get an idea of the balance

i just found my V1 , top in photo and will try it first , it is 9oz instead of 14oz like the V2 bottom in photo , it has less volume also , and i think that will be better for the G-20

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02-05-2008 07:31 PM  10 years agoPost 164
alcastan

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very well, know just let see if we can find the V1 on market, century has only the V3 right now!

Alejandro,

Momma used to say, life's like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get!

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02-05-2008 07:37 PM  10 years agoPost 165
copperclad

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hi Alejandro

i will tell you my secret , but you must not tell anyone else , i got it off the classifieds here on RR , i will warn you though , you have to watch like a hawk as the good deals go fast , dana

there are also a lot of other companies that make great gasser mufflers , some are probably a much better size for the G-20 and probably a lot lighter too , i am just trying the V mufflers because i have them

be sure to check out Zimmerman and Hatori also

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02-05-2008 07:43 PM  10 years agoPost 166
jackheli

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Unfortunately the V1 is not the best muffler out there in terms of holding on to the engine. I was lucky once when it fell off two seconds after I flipped the heli to upright from inverted...

May I suggest that you re-thread the 3mm holes with 4mm? That was the only way I got it to stick.

Did you end up supporting the pinion with one or two bearings?

It's easy to find an excuse to do wrong. Hard is not to find an excuse to do right.

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02-05-2008 07:44 PM  10 years agoPost 167
alcastan

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thank you dana, I´m right now checking the zimmerman´s

Alejandro,

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02-05-2008 07:58 PM  10 years agoPost 168
copperclad

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hi Jack
thanks i found out the same way too , mine are already drilled and tapped to the larger size , thanks again , dana

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02-05-2008 08:09 PM  10 years agoPost 169
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Hi Dana, don’t forget to charge your video camera batteries; we want to see the first flight, Oh and no cheating
Peter

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02-05-2008 08:24 PM  10 years agoPost 170
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Wow my hat off to copperclad. I've being following this tread since he started it! Great project copperclad keep it up

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02-06-2008 12:23 PM  10 years agoPost 171
Fixit

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Hi Dana, The 600 looks fantastic sat there in your garden but I have to admit the view is equally as good, you must be over the moon at this point I know I would be

Peter

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02-06-2008 12:39 PM  10 years agoPost 172
copperclad

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hi Peter
thanks , i have to cut holes for the two switches and mount the engine sensor and i am thinking at that point it will be just like opening the kit box for the first time , i will be able to start final assembly , knock wood here

my wife and i live on the shore of lake Ontario , our house is between blocks and the streets deadend at the lake so as luck would have it we are whats called land locked and don't have a driveway , we have to park at the end of the street and then follow a foot path to the house , this time of year the lake usually freezes out about a hundred meters or so , and with the view from the front window you would swear a polar bear could walk by , needless to say , we love it

i want to thank every one again , all the support and encouragement has been really great , and much appreciated , dana

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02-07-2008 01:07 PM  10 years agoPost 173
copperclad

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hi Jack
sorry i missed your question on the pinion bearings first time around , there are actually three bearings in the clutch starter assembly ( four if you want to count the oneway bearing ) , and although i was thinking of running just the main pinion bearing , i am back to running all three , i posted this photo last week but you must have missed it , HTH , dana

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02-07-2008 04:03 PM  10 years agoPost 174
richardf

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Great project
You are doing some great work here and I am waiting for your test results!

-Richard.

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02-07-2008 04:21 PM  10 years agoPost 175
Invrted1

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Seems like the man has all of the bases covered, all of us here are hoping for the best!

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02-07-2008 04:32 PM  10 years agoPost 176
darkfa8

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with any luck this could turn into a scaleable conversion for the upcoming 700N machine.

So you could start with a 600N, upgrade to a gas engine and possibly stretch the 600 to a 700N or start with a 700N and swap in a G26 size motor and hopefully get away with an airframe investment of less then $900 or so.

If it could be priced less then the basic Century Gasser, that'd really be the cat's a$$

- Dan Goldstein
Team Revolectrix

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02-07-2008 04:39 PM  10 years agoPost 177
copperclad

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hi Richard and Invrted1
thanks you guys , it is great to be able to share this with interested people and i am so glad we have the forums to get this information out and to others , RR ends up being like a huge collective knowledge base , and i think we all benefit with the sharing

my magnets came yesterday , and i have installed them into the fan and am almost ready to do a final install of the fan on the motor , i made up a sensor mount for the shroud plate , and i worked out installation of the canopy yesterday and have been working on installing the two power switches also , there have been a whole passel of these home stretch details to work out before i can button it up

thanks again , dana

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02-07-2008 04:49 PM  10 years agoPost 178
copperclad

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hi Dan

i have been fighting off the worst case of 700 fever , i'm not over my case of 600 yet and i can tell i'm already getting the shakes , the 700 should be very interesting , i think there could be a few cross model parts , pinions , gears , belts , booms , that would open up the whole 650 class , and the 700 G-231 has got to be on more minds than mine , thanks again , dana

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02-07-2008 05:13 PM  10 years agoPost 179
Invrted1

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I forgot to ask what the test gear ratio is and what is projected headspeed for the first test? Can you tach it?

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02-07-2008 05:23 PM  10 years agoPost 180
copperclad

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hi Invrted1
the 600n runs metric 0.7 MOD gearing , the stock machine comes with a 170 main and 20 pinion and i would like to run a 27 pinion but they are hard to source , so i do have a tach and will be shooting for around 12,500 on the engine and around 1500 on the head ( 12,500 would be 1470 ) , and i know this sounds low , but it is sport gearing and i am only a sport pilot , the 27 tooth pinion would give a headspeed of around 2000 , i will tach the head to see where the engine is if that makes sense , here are a few photos of the ignition sensor bracket and the magnets installed , one magnet is north on top and the other is south , the sensor only senses one of them and the other is just to balance the fan , dana

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