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03-30-2009 08:23 PM  9 years agoPost 141
gix

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out of everything i did, that was the most dramatic and beneficial. when i got the tail set up with the 401 and the s9650, i flew it and it felt like cheating.

no more wasting half a battery trimming the tail...with the 401 you do not touch the trim tabs or it actually screws things up...

when i set it up i raised the gain until the tail wagged and then i lowered it and my god.....the tail is so solid. i actually had to adjust the gain down because in simple forward flight its almost too much...so dropped the gain which loosened the tail a bit and now its so smooth and the tail is solid as a rock for the flying i do.. i believe the highest gain i achieved was 70 and i have it set on 61 in HH mode for normal park/light stunt flying..if there is a good wind i just kick up the gain from the radio...

its a very solid set up and it makes a night and day difference..

if you dont want to go out and spend the money all at once, get yourself a good tail servo and hook it up to the 110. You will notice quite a difference...that way, if you are happy with the upgrade, you just saved yourself 130$. and down the road when you outgrow the 110 you buy the 401 and you already have the tail servo..

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03-30-2009 08:29 PM  9 years agoPost 142
mmc205

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oddly, enough i already paired a futaba 9257 to the g110 and noticed a decrease in tail holding. not sure why. with the stock servo it held well in stationary flips/rolls and some tailslides but with the 9257 its worse. i upped the gain until it hunted and backed down a bit. flew and the tail didn't hold well at all. okay in forward flight but it blew out in backwards flight and in flips/rolls. i know the servo is worlds better than stock so i'm strill trying to figure this out. i was relatively pleased with the stock tail holding ability but thought it could only improve with the 9257. anyone else have the 9257 paired with th g110? whats your servo arem distance? how about your gain and headspeed (right now i'm running 11t on 100-90-100 curve.

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03-30-2009 08:30 PM  9 years agoPost 143
mmc205

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it kinda sucks, its almost unmanageable for a 3D flight newbie like myself because instead of concentration on the moves i have to keep kicking the tail back into place. once on a tailslide i thought i was going to lose the whole heli because it occilated so badly on the way down i wasn't sure which way to pull out.

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03-30-2009 08:49 PM  9 years agoPost 144
freakyreef

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anyone else have the 9257 paired with th g110? whats your servo arem distance? how about your gain and headspeed (right now i'm running 11t on 100-90-100 curve.
I noticed the EXACT same thing. The tail response was horrible when I switched. While it is manageable, it just requires CONSTANT supervison of the tail all the time. Sustained flips or tictocs are a real bear to keep it straight.
I'll check the distance when I get home, 100/90/100 with stock pinion.
I will be switching to a gy401 since this combination does not work at all.

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03-30-2009 09:57 PM  9 years agoPost 145
mmc205

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thats odd, maybe its an incompatibility thing. I may steal the 401 off of my trex 500 and replace it with either another 401 or the new 520 when it comes out

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03-30-2009 10:41 PM  9 years agoPost 146
gix

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wow..thats really good to know...

thats why i was saying if you are planning the upgrade, it cant hurt to try the servo first...worse comes to worse, you buy the gyro anyway and no love lost.

did you set the gyro for digital? if i recall (and i might be totally wrong), the stock servo is digital but you cant run it with the 110 in digital mode (the switch on the gyro)..

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03-30-2009 10:59 PM  9 years agoPost 147
freakyreef

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Tried setting the switch both way's. Didn't make any difference. I can turn the gain up until it wags faster than a dogs tail in a room full of kid's eating candy bars and it won't make any difference.
the new 520 when it comes out
It's out.

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03-30-2009 11:12 PM  9 years agoPost 148
gix

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hahahahahahaha you just made me spit coffee out my nose..

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03-31-2009 12:49 AM  9 years agoPost 149
mmc205

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Same here tried digital mode.... No joy. Just popped the 401 on should hold well now

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03-31-2009 06:38 PM  9 years agoPost 150
gix

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im certain you will be happy with it

one note. i found that mounting the 401 on a gel pad helped quite a bit to keep any little vibrations off the gyro. visibly, i saw no vibration..not even the vertical fin...but there was one screwing with the gyro to where i couldnt get the gain high enough in HH. i used one of the gel pads we use on the nitro helis and that cured everything

im not sure if it is because my heli is extremely rigid due to the carbon frame and all the crap i have on it..but i thought id throw it out there in case anyone finds this issue.

i have a zip tie (very loosely) around it because i had one fly off when i was doing some spins...and that sucks. if you strap it down, do not make it tight.

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04-01-2009 12:19 AM  9 years agoPost 151
mmc205

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i just added a 401, so that takes me to
hitec 5065's on cyclic
stock motor
stock esc
integy sbec
gy 401 with 9257
align paddles
stock tail blades
cy radix mains

all i have to say is wow.
this is a whole differnt heli, felt great with all but the 401 but i couldn't keep the tail under control. with the 401 its locked in tight. my only beef now is the lack of cyclic without binding but i may do a mixing arm flip soon to gain some cyclic throw. i'll try and report back as i've heard this mod makes the hover a lot less stable.

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04-01-2009 12:49 AM  9 years agoPost 152
gix

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when i did the 401 it felt like cheating...not having to waste half a battery trimming the tail is awesome...infact, not having to touch the tail trim ever rules...

i actually had to unlock it a bit. i was having a hard to flying it smooth doing figure 8's and what not and slower speeds..it was just so locked and had no 'slide'..so for slower park flying i set it at about 60ish on the gain and when i go thrash around ill kick it up to 70..

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04-07-2009 03:53 AM  9 years agoPost 153
freakyreef

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Got my gy-520, so I put it in the big bird and put the gy-401 in the Blade. Now, If I can just get a halfway calm/dry day to fly either one... It's either been blowing 60 mph or rain/snow.

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04-07-2009 01:03 PM  9 years agoPost 154
mmc205

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i think i'm unloading the blade. nice heli, but it can't seem to handle the high cyclic and harder moves. i'll sell it if anyone here is interested.
it would include:

airframe
325mm align fiberglass blades
align paddles (installed)
stock paddles
g110 gyro
stock tail servo
no cyclic servos
stock motor
stock esc
integy SBEC BEC (adjustable for output voltage)
stock tailblades
some spare parts (feathering shafts, ball links, pinion, head block, and i may be forgetting a few others.)

I'm looking to get $150 shipped but if you have a reasonable offer please pm me.

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04-09-2009 12:53 AM  9 years agoPost 155
freakyreef

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Tried it with the 401 tonight. HUGE difference. Tail was LOCKED, Finally. The 401 stays on the blade
Sadly, the stock gyro does much better with the stock servo than it does with a 9257?? Go figure.
MMC, I have done the grip flip and flipped mixing arms. It's not as bad as your thinking. I noticed very little difference on the stability, but a huge difference on the cyclic. Much quicker, snappier and stronger.

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04-09-2009 03:05 PM  9 years agoPost 156
davehour

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Hi guys:

I have my Blade stock and it's flying well. I'm doing 3d but with care as you know it has its limitation, but can do piro flips, backward, etc.

I'm planning upgrading it bit by bit, first the tail electronics. I would like to upgrade the tail servo first as it will require less money, and later on, invest in a 401, but don't know if upgrading the servo will make a difference with the stock gyro.

I'll try the grip and mixer arms flipping soon. All you say about this change sounds interesting.

Thanks in advance for your recommendations.

David

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04-09-2009 03:18 PM  9 years agoPost 157
m.m flyer

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money
for all that money u could buy trex 500

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04-10-2009 12:44 AM  9 years agoPost 158
freakyreef

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for all that money u could buy trex 500
Really? I would be interested to see it.

Total cost for mine.
Blade 400 $399.99
3 hs 65 servos $75
1 9257 servo $59
Already had the gy-401 from an upgrade to a 502.

I didn't have a 2.4 ghz transmitter or rx.

So show me where you can buy a t-rex 500, a dx6i tx/rx, 3 hs65 servos and a 9257 servo, battery and charger for less than $533.99

Not to mention, I already owned 1 trex and swore I would never buy another align product.
Just can't figure some people out. If you don't fly what they are flying then you are substandard.

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04-10-2009 10:48 AM  9 years agoPost 159
gix

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thats a matter of opinion...if you ask me, there isnt a part on the 400 that is better quality than the 450se v2. i have every imaginable upgrade for the 400 and it still doesnt fly as well as a stock v2.

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04-10-2009 02:23 PM  9 years agoPost 160
freakyreef

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if you ask me, there isnt a part on the 400 that is better quality than the 450se v2
I don't think I have seen anyone who claims it is better quality than a se v.2.
I will say my t-rex S made 2 or 3 flights before its first crash thanks to that cheap piece of crap tail gear that spun off. Wasn't too impressed with it's quality either. In fact, I have had much fewer problems with my blade400 than I ever did with my t-rex.
Bottom line, I fly what I fly, you fly what you fly.

I just don't understand the mindset of "I'll make myself feel better about my purchase by dogging what others purchase"

Walk on water long enough, eventually you will get your feet wet.

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