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01-19-2009 02:33 AM  9 years agoPost 261
AaronJohnson

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I am pretty sure that the black one is the good one BUT, it is a mechanical part and it can still fail. Bummer.

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01-19-2009 01:47 PM  9 years agoPost 262
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Went to fire up the sp and pulled the rear plate off the motor and found that the bearing was locked up, seen some rust on the crank shaft also. I pulled the motor and took apart. Lots of corrosion.

On my rappy I have the same motor. What I did before I put her away is, pulled the rear cover and sprayed some break cleaner in the motor while it was upside down. I let it sit for 30 sec and tip it back over, then I took and blew out the motor. I turned the motor over w/ the starter then flipped the bird over again and put some oil in the crank case and put the rear cover back on and then turnd the motor over again. This system works perfect!

The ticket is the BREAK CLEANER. This pulls out ALL moisture and any bad purities.

Schwaby

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01-19-2009 04:12 PM  9 years agoPost 263
Raptorchief

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Kalkaska, MI USA

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What Fuel?
Lars what fuel were you using? and thanks for the info. The Schwaby speaks!

Chief

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01-19-2009 06:02 PM  9 years agoPost 264
AaronJohnson

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BMW576, I was wrong, it is the outrage pipes with the yellow deflector that have the problems. not the align. sorry.

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01-20-2009 01:48 AM  9 years agoPost 265
busyflyin

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Owosso, MI USA

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Hmmm.. you guys were holding out on me; I just discovered this thread. I read through a bunch of it to find out what's going on and it sounds like Tony got his 700 and crashed it right away, Scooter (who I don't know) bought at 250 and .. who's daddy is a pimp?

How are y'all doing? Man, this weather is driving me up the WALL!! I went out and bought me a Radyowarm, but they aren't warm enough in 10 degree weather! I also discovered that the tail boom shrinks way up in the cold and the belt goes loose. I didn't notice that last year flying in 30 deg weather. I got my new K3D just hanging on the wall asking me everyday what the temp is. What am I supposed to tell it?

Hanging in...

Brad

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01-20-2009 02:28 AM  9 years agoPost 266
bmw576

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Traverse city MI USA

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Hey Heli Freaks

Nick and I went out today TRYING to get my 600pro up and it was a long road. After reworking the gryo, tail and governer I hope that will be all it needs. Lets not forget the whole problem with the pipe we had yesterday. If its above 18 degrees out tomorrow I am going to get that bird in the air. I will then get the inveret nose in down and then you will see Pimp Dad Chris.

Scooter
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Branden

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01-20-2009 01:06 PM  9 years agoPost 267
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CY 23%

When pǝʇɹǝʌuı ,down is up and up is exspensive!

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01-20-2009 03:57 PM  9 years agoPost 268
Texmech

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Camden, N.C.

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[/quote]On my rappy I have the same motor. What I did before I put her away is, pulled the rear cover and sprayed some break cleaner in the motor while it was upside down. I let it sit for 30 sec and tip it back over, then I took and blew out the motor. I turned the motor over w/ the starter then flipped the bird over again and put some oil in the crank case and put the rear cover back on and then turnd the motor over again. This system works perfect!

The ticket is the BREAK CLEANER. This pulls out ALL moisture and any bad purities.[quote]

Not quite the routine I go thru but, I do expell all gas from the engine, remove the glow plug and drop some after run oil in there and turn it over with the stater. I do this after every day of flying. I also store it in the house now instead of the garage. Took a peek last night thru the backplate, and I saw some rust deposites on the crankshaft. So.... I guess I can reasonably assume that my bearings are rusting too. Drat!! after only 2 gallons(CY 30%) again! Guess I'll try the brake cleaner method. Anybody else doing this? Brake cleaner is some nasty stuff what about WD 40?

Steve

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01-20-2009 04:59 PM  9 years agoPost 269
AaronJohnson

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If you have the rusting problems then I would look into the stainless bearings. A lot of the guys say that they are great.

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01-20-2009 05:12 PM  9 years agoPost 270
Raptorchief

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Kalkaska, MI USA

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Engine
Well all I can say is this, as far as I know I have no rust what so ever in my engine!, of course I have not looked, probable won't, I use that good fuel! no rust problem with it. Chief

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01-20-2009 05:46 PM  9 years agoPost 271
Texmech

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What you can't see won't hurt you huh? I don't think O.S. will take my engine back again for rust. So I'm gonna be proactive instead of reactive this time.

Good judgment comes from experience. Unfortunately, experience usually comes from bad judgment.

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01-20-2009 07:01 PM  9 years agoPost 272
dialarotor

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Traverse City, Michigan

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WD 40 is for girlie-men, not even an oil, real mean want something
that leaves a stain, smokes, and makes a tree hugger want to puke.

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01-20-2009 07:07 PM  9 years agoPost 273
czolen

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kalkaska, mi usa

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Hey Girls
I set my beer down last night and pulled the back plate off of both of my Hyper 50's. Both engines are spotless. I talked to Tony and he reported the same.

All I have been doing is running the fuel out of the engine at the end of a day of flying, using only CY30 fuel and storing my birds in a temperature controlled environment.

Chris

The Zolenator

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01-20-2009 07:20 PM  9 years agoPost 274
Texmech

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The House or your workshop?
Just a note my rust stains were very small spots not a uniformed staining of the inside of the engine like I saw with the the Magnum fuel.

Good judgment comes from experience. Unfortunately, experience usually comes from bad judgment.

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01-20-2009 08:26 PM  9 years agoPost 275
AaronJohnson

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mason,MI

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Do you guys plug your mufflers when you are storing the heli. If not it may help prevent moisture from getting into the engine.

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01-20-2009 08:58 PM  9 years agoPost 276
Texmech

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I haven't been, but maybe I'll try that from now on. I 'm very curious to know why Pimp Daddy's engine is spotless. Don't tell me it's the fuel because were using the same stuff.

Good judgment comes from experience. Unfortunately, experience usually comes from bad judgment.

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01-20-2009 09:03 PM  9 years agoPost 277
bmw576

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Traverse city MI USA

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I been doing the same thing as Pimp Daddy with the start and burning out the fuel. I had my motor apart last week and it was also spotlist.
Scooter

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01-20-2009 09:33 PM  9 years agoPost 278
AaronJohnson

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I always run my engines dry at the engine of the day but I figured that there must still be some methonal left inside and methenol is hydroscopic (attracts water) so I got in the habit of plugging the muffler outlet to seal out moisture in the air. Plus, have you ever picked up your heli and had it drip oil out of the muffler on your shirt or pants? LOL dont ask

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01-21-2009 12:36 AM  9 years agoPost 279
TCP

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Kingsley, MI - USA

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pulled all motors apart all are spotless, they all looks brand new in side. hey texas tex how are you doing, have you been learning any new moves with the heli? t-bone

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01-21-2009 01:02 AM  9 years agoPost 280
dialarotor

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Traverse City, Michigan

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Indoors 1/24/09 10AM-1PM Strongheart Center
Hello helinuts,
I have been in contact with our friend Jason Hill up at Strongheart Center up by Leelanau Sands Casino. He is working on some free time for us to enjoy some indoor flying. I just received an email from him and for now he has said if we can get it together, this Saturday the gym is available for flying from 10AM to 1-ish PM.
So if you are in the Traverse City area and want to drive up to the Strongheart Center a few miles north of Sutton's Bay, bring your helis, small planes and anything else you want to fly. Wear some old socks or bring some slippers or whatever to keep the nice wood floor from getting damaged. If the weather is nice, launching a nitro bird from the parking lot is OK too.
Lots of nice places in Suttons Bay for a post flying lunch and bull session, so come up and have some fun just like before.

Dialarotor

Don't forget, it is 2009 and time to renew that AMA membership

Drive up M22 through Suttons Bay, cross Ballenger Creek, turn left at Stallman Rd, go 1/2 mile turn into the complex and bear left along the drives back to the big Strongheart Dome complex.

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