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03-06-2008 11:56 PM  10 years agoPost 861
tchavei

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lol

Lets see if I pack it up for Rbush or not. There is still hope it will be a blast

Anyway, It will take well more than just a couple of days to build and set up... I'm a perfectionist so it should take me at least 3 nights to build it, another 2 nights to transfer the electronics and another night to setup everything. Glad I'm just slapping the electronics in or it would take me another week

I still need make a custom mount for my mixture control servo and another adaptor for my 3155 nano throttle servo. I have the distinct feeling that the align 18G adapters won't be of any use on the vibe if it has enlarged servo holes to accomodate the famous DS8717

Why is it so hard to get some G10 sheets in europe? I have the house full of 2mm carbon sheets but G10... harder to find than gold.

I could use the custom mount I made for my 600N but I would need to drill two holes in the side frame. Need to ask Rbush if thats ok with him.

Another worry is how to place the governor,rx, reg and lipo. I've seen most factory pilots to stack everything but it will be a b**ch to swap the lipo at the field like that. I also ordered another front radio bed so I can get a little creative but in the meanwhile I also realized that the vibe is only 32mm wide and my lipo is 30mm so I don't have space to put some vertical distance bolts to make a "drawer" for the battery...

I need to plan something better...

I'm going to use a set of 600mm radix for now. I'm also deciding if I should get a set of 610mm rotortech but that yellow is horrible. For tails I have a set of Kok extreme 95mm carbon blades.
For paddles I have a set of superstubz (and if the bird proves to be too jerky in flight, a set of V paddles is also coming).

Still need to find a place for the switchglo. I thought it would fit beneath the bed but I was wrong. Its too narrow. Need to find another place. So many electronics... I can almost see the gr add up

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03-07-2008 08:39 AM  10 years agoPost 862
mickeyapples

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I like the electric tray on the Trex. It is going to be tight on the vibe for a battery, regs, gov, RX and Gyro panel. Better get stacking.
I have seen a picture with the gyro at the back.

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03-07-2008 09:37 AM  10 years agoPost 863
Obiwan

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I hate you Mac, mine is delayed one week

Best way to predict the future, is to Invent it.

FORMERLY KNOWN AS ForrestGump

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03-07-2008 10:40 AM  10 years agoPost 864
tchavei

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Antonio: Why?

Mac Man: Very interesting!!

Lets do some Math

2580gr base setting
0260gr Main Blades (130gr +/- each)
0170gr cyclic servos (56,7gr each 9351)
0040gr (2 nano servos 3155 for carbsmart and throttle)
0052gr Arizona Reg
0098gr Lipo 2100mAh TP
0030gr Spartan plus metal base plate
0005gr Carbsmart
0012gr Multigov + sensor
0032gr eagletree logger
0048gr Tail servo (9254)
0006gr for both nano servo supports

So that should give a grand total of: 3333gr
Now lets add another 30gr for cables and another 30gr for
the links that arn't installed yet: 3390gr

Still need to know if paddles and tail blades are included in the given weight. If not, add another 24+5=29gr so that would be 3419gr.
Now remove 8gr if you have a YS50 and it will give 3411gr

Very nice if it comes out like that

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03-07-2008 11:35 AM  10 years agoPost 865
steverobertsuk

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Tony

That weight is with paddles fitted, but no tail blades, they are arriving today..... Its light!

Hope to install the radio tomorrow and fly on Sunday weather permitting

Steve

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03-07-2008 11:40 AM  10 years agoPost 866
tchavei

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U guys are teasing me way too much.

I never thought I would be anxious to get over the coming weekend lol.

I still don't get it though... the 600N has half of the components the vibe has (at least less 50 screws or so). The vibe radio tray seems to be build like an anti nuke silo and yet it doesn't seem to weight more... wierd...

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03-07-2008 11:46 AM  10 years agoPost 867
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Mac_Man: God it looks nice

Steve: Since the manual doesn't say anything, what about flybar ratios and such? I noticed JR recommends the outer hole on the seesaw but is that for stable or nimble characteristics? What about the upper mixer arms? I see the outerhole being used again but what do the other settins do? I can see at leat 6 possible configurations and no hint of what does what.

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03-07-2008 11:56 AM  10 years agoPost 868
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So the govenor sensor can be mounted over the clutch bell?Never seen it done that way before.

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03-07-2008 11:59 AM  10 years agoPost 869
tchavei

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I did.

Synergy uses the same system.

I tried to get an extra mount from Andy so I could mount my eagltree sensor on the other side of the frame. I don't know if he shipped it though. I do know my extra radio tray is in the bag

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03-07-2008 12:31 PM  10 years agoPost 870
tchavei

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Damm I forgot the canopy

How much does it weight? I guess around 175gr

3333gr from my last assessment
0175gr canopy
0060gr links and cables
0005gr tail blades

Total
3573gr

Ok, still managable


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03-07-2008 01:07 PM  10 years agoPost 871
3Dx

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Tony defiantly you the King of the weight, so the question:

Is this baby lighter than the 600n??? About the quality I have no doubt!!!!!!

Can you do a study when you receive/built/fly this baby and let us know???

TSAP please, My Visa is hurting my back for 2 Vibes!!

Do you guys like to know the opinion of Jason K about the Vibe 50????

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03-07-2008 01:17 PM  10 years agoPost 872
Eleven_Bravo

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After spending 3+ hours to read this whole 49 page post.

All I have to say is please keep me posted if your real world weights are anywhere close to the 3573 posted.

If so I may just have to come up with whatever JR wants for this heli. It looks really good to me.

I will stay out of the whole 600N vs Vibe vs Mutton 50 issue and just say that I think this light heli will really fit my flying style.

Thanks for the entertaining read please keep me posted on the equipment you use and your end weights thanks alot.

ENGAGE!!

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03-07-2008 01:40 PM  10 years agoPost 873
tchavei

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Well its going to be real close depending on:

- Canopy weight (plus optional paint if one does a custom one)
- usage (or not) of carbsmart and mixture servo (-28gr if not)
- usage (or not) of eagletree system (-32gr if not)
- usage (or not) of switchglo (+25gr if yes)

DAMM I just remembered I also have a switchglo.... plus 25gr... this is going to be heavy... lol

3573+25 = 3598gr (60gr heavier than my 600N)

I need to shave some weight off already but still managable. Need to tell my painter to keep the canopy lightweight and maybe ditch the eagletree system.

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03-07-2008 01:43 PM  10 years agoPost 874
tchavei

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Anybody knows the boom width? if its 22mm, I can ditch the horizontal tail fin and clamp and use my quickuk one which is super light. That should save some aditional weight

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03-07-2008 01:48 PM  10 years agoPost 875
Ace Dude

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I need to shave some weight off already but still managable.
Um, ditch the Switchglo....

  

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03-07-2008 01:49 PM  10 years agoPost 876
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Hi Tony

22mm boom

Andy

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03-07-2008 02:15 PM  10 years agoPost 877
Matt-Drummer

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Weight......

Fitted with an OS50 Hyper & Hatori USA SAB50 (no servo's, radio gear etc)

2.58 Kg ( 5.687 lbs )
Where does it say that this weight doesn't include the canopy and tail blades? I assumed that this weight was everythng in the box plus the engine and exhaust, all that's excluded is the radio equipment (servos, gyro, receiver, battery, switch, governor etc) and main blades.

If I was really concerned about weight I would be thinking about the amount and specification of the equipment I was adding to the helicopter.

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03-07-2008 03:20 PM  10 years agoPost 878
tchavei

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Its still withing reason. Don't forget that my electronics are heavy and I have alot of little goodies that add weight. My 600N is heavier than most. If you put an align pipe instead of the hatori, you're saving at least 50gr already.

Andy: thx Seems I'll be putting the quick clamp on in that case

Now does anyone know how much the stock tail clamp + horizontal fin weights?

The real weight of the canopy would be nice. The 600N canopy weights 122gr (pro version) but my custom painted ended with 171gr thats why I put 175gr as reference

Ace Dude: I can't. Where I fly, the field is surrounded by thick bush and I already lost my bird there twice. Its bad enough to crash but its a real drama not be able to find the bird

I also forgot to add a headertank lol. I guess I can live without it.

I need to shave more weight off. I have to study the manual. Be back later

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03-07-2008 03:33 PM  10 years agoPost 879
Matt-Drummer

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If you put an align pipe instead of the hatori, you're saving at least 50gr already.
No Align parts! What are you thinking!
I need to shave more weight off. I have to study the manual. Be back later
Everytime you go off to save weight you come back with another part that you have forgotten, I'd stop now before you make it too heavy to fly!

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03-07-2008 03:36 PM  10 years agoPost 880
rchelichop

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Even though the Vibe 50 may be a tad heavier, the 600Ns I have seen others fly have quality issues that I would glady trade off for a heavier heli with good quality than that of Aligns QC and I think the frame design of the 600N is rather lackluster and even poor in many aspects. Main shafts are cheap for the 600N, but heck they can't even make it the proper diameter and it moves around in the bearings. My friend got rid of his 600N not because it flew badly, but after 1 gallon it exhibited wear and slop to the likes I have never seen before. To top it off with what I think are reckless antics from their sponsored pilots, they seem to be trying to bring us into the dark ages here.

I will most definately be getting a Vibe 50 and will be happy to pay a little extra for parts that are within tolerance and will hold up for day to day flying.

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