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03-04-2008 04:25 PM  10 years agoPost 41
fredd

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G-SWSM,

where do you find Aeroshell in the UK ?

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03-05-2008 04:04 PM  10 years agoPost 42
G-SWSM

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Hi Fredd.

Check out this link, and they also do delivery's as well. Handy for you guy's down south. http://secure.silmid.com/varius.eng...f=12&language=1

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03-07-2008 01:53 PM  10 years agoPost 43
fredd

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Thanks.

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03-07-2008 03:25 PM  10 years agoPost 44
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Which Aero shell is it ?

i also have a question, i use Mobil jetoil,

Looking at the makeup of it and recommendations,
Mobil Jet Oil II is a high performance aircraft-type gas turbine lubricant
formulated with a combination of a highly stable synthetic base fluid and a
unique chemical additive package. The combination provides
outstanding thermal and oxidative stability to resist deterioration and
deposit formation in both the liquid and vapour phases, as well as excellent
resistance to foaming. The effective operating range of Mobil Jet Oil II is
between -40 C (-40 F) and 204 C (400 F).

our turbines work at a lot higher temp than that, so does this mean the oil is ineffective at this high temp?

Just caught my attention

Matt

All The Best

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03-07-2008 03:51 PM  10 years agoPost 45
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Don't worry Matt, that oil is used in large turbofan engines. The max EGT for a GE CF6-50 engine is around 910C if I memory serves me correctly. After that you get a little red light come on and the flight engineer startes working out his excuse for exceeding the limit
Also, don't forget turbine oil is normally scavenged back into a tank as part of the oil system. Our's goes straight out the back.

A higher quality oil is Mobil 245 but it is more expensive and is dark in colour.

Paul.

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03-07-2008 05:15 PM  10 years agoPost 46
fredd

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Is there a good turbine oil that is less dangerous for the users ? Some of these oils need to be treated carefully (long list of health warnings).
I believe for Aeroshell, you need the 500.

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03-07-2008 06:08 PM  10 years agoPost 47
FCM

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No, it's all toxic and they are all similar in composition as they have to conform to regulatory standards. There is no safe turbine oil I'm affraid.

Paul.

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03-07-2008 06:28 PM  10 years agoPost 48
Havoc

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Should I not be drinking it?

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03-07-2008 06:31 PM  10 years agoPost 49
FCM

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That depends. Can you afford it?

Paul.

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03-07-2008 06:36 PM  10 years agoPost 50
Havoc

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I can't afford any this but that hasn't stopped me. I thought turbine oil was a good substitute for fish oil. That explains the blindness.

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03-07-2008 06:37 PM  10 years agoPost 51
G-SWSM

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Should I not be drinking it?
Havoc,

I seriousley nearly P****d my pants when I read that, perfect timing in the reply as well.

Well done.

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04-26-2008 11:01 PM  10 years agoPost 52
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Heli Suisse
SkeeterPilot: JetCat doesn't recommand the use of the Castrol TTS (page 6 of the operating manual), for is might not mix well with the kerosene!
Done over 100 hrs. with no problems. Never seen any separation - doesn't get the chance really. Does the Jet Cat manual say "might not" or "does not" ? Good job I have a Wren

If there is soil going over the canopy, you're too low!

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04-27-2008 04:23 AM  10 years agoPost 53
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Besides the oil being carcinogenic, what about hte Kerosene or Jet A itself?

I mean, it seems somewhat silly to be arguing about the safest oil, when the omnipresent problem is the fuel itself!!

Any one ever seen an MSDS on Jet A?

windy62

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04-27-2008 05:37 PM  10 years agoPost 54
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Oh,

so I shoulden't be drinking the JET A1 either . . . . .

shucks, don't drink the oil, now don't drink the fuel, oh well, it's back to the stills then.

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05-08-2008 09:43 PM  10 years agoPost 55
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I think the oil is proven to be carcinogenic, whereas paraffin has been used worldwide for Donkey’s years in lamps to light homes and I have not heard anything about people keeling over with some awful decease caused by the use of paraffin lamps in the 2nd. World war. It’s quite likely that most things are carcinogenic, but to different degrees.

Castrol 2T burnt with Kero is not a bad smell; I don’t know why Calvin Klein don’t bottle it.

If there is soil going over the canopy, you're too low!

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05-09-2008 03:45 AM  10 years agoPost 56
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Found it!!

http://www.usor.com/pdfs/msds/fuels/Jet_Fuel_MSDS.pdf

It calls it a mutagen, looked that up too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutagen

Mutagen=carcinogen....(

windy62

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05-09-2008 08:47 AM  10 years agoPost 57
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Found it!!
In Short: If used by sensible people in a sensible manner, you will be fine.

If there is soil going over the canopy, you're too low!

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05-09-2008 09:39 AM  10 years agoPost 58
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It's okay to use for our purpose. It's when you get bathed in it that problems occur especially if this happens frequently. It is not nice stuff though - no petroleum product is. As an aside, methanol is treated like poison in the aircraft industry as it readily absorbes through skin causing nasty things to happen to your liver. How many 'glow' flyers even know this?

Paul.

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05-09-2008 11:38 AM  10 years agoPost 59
Leonidas

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I think you boys should stop worrying about a bit of weekend glow or kero sniffing and worry about the things you eat and drink each day.

Artificial sweetners are taking 'diet' to the extreme:
http://dorway.com/dorwblog/?p=22#more-22

How safe is the milk?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trWcqxrQgcc

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05-09-2008 04:15 PM  10 years agoPost 60
seattle_helo

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Leonidas, so true.

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