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10-01-2007 06:02 PM  12 years ago
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kiwidave1

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WARNING::: TRAVELING BY AIR WITH YOUR HELICOPTER
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/AP.../D8S0GRK00.html

TSA to scrutinize remote-controlled toys

By EILEEN SULLIVAN

Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON — Airport screeners will be taking a closer look at remote control toys in carry-on luggage due to concerns they could be used to detonate bombs, U.S. officials said Monday.

The new practice is not a result of a specific threat, according to the Transportation Security Administration. But authorities recently arrested two Florida college students who posted a video online with instructions on how to use a remote-controlled toy to set off a bomb.

Passengers - including children - carrying these toys may have to go through secondary screening.

"While not associated with a specific threat at this time, TSA is aware that remote control toys can be used to initiate devices used in terrorist attacks," according to Monday's press release. "Transportation security officers have trained on this possibility and travelers may encounter additional screening when bringing remote control devices in carry-on luggage."
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10-01-2007 06:04 PM  12 years ago
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wow

how about trying to find the bomb instead of the detinator?

Theres a novel idea!
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10-01-2007 06:07 PM  12 years ago
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Of course, the Associated Press, always way left of center and bleeding liberal, neglects to mention the ORIGIN of the 2 'Florida college students'. To no one who has a brain's surprise, they are Arab/ME/Muslim/Correct PC term.

Let's not do anything intelligent like looking at who might be carrying
the item, let's bust everyone. Wouldn't wanna be profiling now, would we.
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10-01-2007 06:24 PM  12 years ago
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To the uninformed inspector our batteries will look like part of a nuclear bomb...just what I need right now!
It's not the inspectors faults, but I fear seeing a whole new set of restrictions.
At least I'm outside the U.S. right now. I'll post how my flight from London-Rome-Buenos Aires goes.
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10-01-2007 06:31 PM  12 years ago
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I fly on Southwest quite a bit and I know that their policy specifically forbids radio devices that transmit (no walkie-talkies, no RC transmitters, etc). I am sure that it won't be long before the TSA guys also start denying carryon for our transmitters. BTW, Southwest also forbids GPS devices.

All this information is in their in-flight magazine, towards the end.
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10-01-2007 06:33 PM  12 years ago
z11355

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f*g nonsense.

Just about all electronic things have local oscillators/clocks on board.

I wonder what bogus rationale SW has against GPS? Yea, like I'm going to put that in my checked baggage so the aholes can break it.
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10-01-2007 06:35 PM  12 years ago
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& thats why i always check my 450 box, i also lock it with zipties and they are usually cut offonly you have the power to make no difference!
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10-01-2007 06:41 PM  12 years ago
dazzaster

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i woudnt worry about it all , its all for our own safety.
how about trying to find the bomb instead of the detinator?
the detinator is easier to find than the actuel bomb/explosives as explosives can be moulded into any shape from an apple or grape to a dolls head..
beside without a power source or detinator the explosives end up pritty much useless.
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10-01-2007 06:58 PM  12 years ago
eyeflyhelis

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actually there is a company (hsfi stock symbol) that makes a machine that can sniff out the chemicals that are used to make a bomb. the us airports thought they cost to much even though it passed every test it was given
humm our security & safety or more profit? guess there is really no question there
only you have the power to make no difference!
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10-01-2007 07:33 PM  12 years ago
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Who needs a bomb when you've got Lipos?

Perhaps a battery/baggage fire would be a non-event in an airliner - I don't know how effective their fire extinguishers are. But I'm slightly surprised they let them on board.

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10-01-2007 07:40 PM  12 years ago
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Cell phones are used as remote detonators for IUDs in Iraq. I don't hear them denying carry on cell phones. I know you are not supposed to use them when on an aircraft, but the terrorist don't seem to want to follow rules !!

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I think too many government regulators watch to many Hollywood action movies and take them seriously .."Whatever you do, don't cut the red wire !!"

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Umm, I didn't know they were blowing up women's uteruses over there?

Or maybe you mean IEDs?
Good one ! I suppose I could claim mistype, but the E key is not even close to the U Key !!
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10-01-2007 10:00 PM  12 years ago
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Slightly different spin here on CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TRAVEL/10/0...toys/index.html
  
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10-01-2007 10:36 PM  12 years ago
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remote detonators for IUDs in Iraq.
Umm, I didn't know they were blowing up women's uteruses over there?

Or maybe you mean IEDs?

The Southwest literature actually means that such devices cannot ever be turned ON while in flight. In fact most airlines have the same rules. It doesn't mean you can't HAVE them in your carry-on.

Examples of such devices are Satellite radio receivers, TVs, and GPS units.

I get away with #1 with my Pioneer Inno because I can turn it into MP3 mode if they ask.

Erich
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10-01-2007 10:56 PM  12 years ago
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SWA...?
Are you sure Southwest prohibits bringing those devices on board, or just thier use? The FAA and FCC prohibit cell phones and other devices that transmit, and several airlines prohibit USING GPS on the plane (I think they are paranoid) but there is nothing prohibiting bringing them with you. I don't know Southwest's rules, but I suspect they don't prohibit packing them.
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10-01-2007 11:02 PM  12 years ago
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Is the cargo hold that much safer ?
With all these exclusions to what you can and cant carry as on board a commercial plane. Is the fact that stuff like model "toys" etc carried as Cargo any safer ? I cant even now carry a bottle of Coke or a set of nail clippers on board an international flight out of NZ

Are they screening Cargo better than PAX carryon ?

Surely you can conseal a bigger bomb as cargo ? have these aviation authorites (worldwide) got their preiorities right ?

Neil Harker
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10-01-2007 11:04 PM  12 years ago
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well, I use my GPS for MP3 books and stuff. I can flip the antenna
down to prevent the sat. receiver part from firing up but lets face it,
this whole thing about cell phones on airplanes is BS.

you're telling me that after 20 years neither the FAA or gov. has never
done an exhaustive study?

Or is it that it's in the airlines and governments BEST INTEREST to keep passengers in the dark.
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10-01-2007 11:15 PM  12 years ago
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re: SWA
I think ErichF is correct - usage is prohibited but you can carry them on.

I did get a lecture once though on a United flight about having my GPS on board. Soon we will all have to board the plane naked!!

I never quite understood this stuff about cellphone usage in flight.
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10-01-2007 11:20 PM  12 years ago
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this is BS!
i guess they better start banning cell phones from planes. i believe thats what is used a lot of times in IED's. just call the number of a phone wired to a bomb and away ya go!!
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10-01-2007 11:28 PM  12 years ago
AWSeeker

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re: SWA

I think ErichF is correct - usage is prohibited but you can carry them on.

I did get a lecture once though on a United flight about having my GPS on board. Soon we will all have to board the plane naked!!
I hope I dont have to sit next to that fat guy again!

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10-01-2007 11:29 PM  12 years ago
kiwidave1

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I did get a lecture once though on a United flight about having my GPS on board. Soon we will all have to board the plane naked!!
Except SouthWest in which case you will have to naked but then put on a SouthWest supplied Burka

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20638479/

SouthWest Supplied Burka

The Virgin Airlines Supplied Burka

David
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