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02-15-2003 03:14 AM  15 years agoPost 1
wyd

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Kinda looking at the hirobo heli line of heli's. The main reason is a friend of mine flies a Shuttle ZXX and also has a 346 and a Tsurigi .60. He really likes the overall quality and how well the fly. He also has a Raptor and a Falcon but they just are not as smooth.

Which one would be best from beginner status to light 3D flying. A ZXX might be a little too expensive but not sure which of the other ones out would be the best.

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02-15-2003 03:36 AM  15 years agoPost 2
yapjy

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30 size = Shuttle Plus
50 size = Sceadu

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02-15-2003 09:55 AM  15 years agoPost 3
G.Man

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Shuttle Plus is great as its fantastically stable in the hover and can be upgraded as your budget/breakages allow...

Just take your time building it properly and you will have a nice little machine...

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02-15-2003 03:05 PM  15 years agoPost 4
wyd

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Thanks for the info. I will look into them a little harder now. I plan on the OS.32 motor nd the Futaba 401 gyro if I take the plunge. Radio wise I have not decided but the Futaba 9C might be my choice if the budget allows. I just need to see if I realy want to fly helis. Never hurts to look ahead and get the right info before you buy something.

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02-15-2003 06:38 PM  15 years agoPost 5
G.Man

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I highly recommend the Irvine 36 Mk2 Ring as an alternative to the OS...

Carburetion is solid throughout the range, develops great power and a saving over the OS....

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02-15-2003 08:09 PM  15 years agoPost 6
Scooterpilot

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Hi,

Like Galifrey said, take you time building it. The setup on a heli will directly translate into how it flies. Set up is 90% of the stability and handling of the heli. When set up properly, all you'll have to do it trim it for hover/flight.


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02-16-2003 02:04 AM  15 years agoPost 7
Ivan

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I would probably suggest the Sceadeau 30, because it is a more modern design and seems to be a little betterplaned out. The shuttle is a bit tail heavy (usually requiring little more than a pound of led ) and hard to balance for aero0batics when you are ready to try them.

Now, I won a shuttle and I love it to bits. they are smooth and stable and can be made to turn and burn with a little work and easy mods. The shuttle has been around for a long time and has a good track record.

Either one would do to get you started, but I would spend the $$$ on a sim first. If you aren't going to get a sim then get the heli with the cheapest replacement parts. Probably a Century or a ratpoor (raptor). Never flown a century, but I had one raptor and that was enough, especially after owning my first shuttle, the difference in quality really made me dislike the raptor.

Either the shuttle or sceadeau would be a good choice, and the Sceadeau is upgradeable to a 50! Wish I could cram one of those in my shuttle!!!

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02-16-2003 02:24 AM  15 years agoPost 8
wyd

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Nice thig is my friend flies the Shuttle line of helis and can help me. I actually built two other machines that I sold prior to flying them. I built a Hawk and a Falcon, both of which my buddy bought and flew with no problems. I have been racing and building r/c cars for 17 years.

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02-16-2003 05:12 AM  15 years agoPost 9
MR SLOWFLOW

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id say go with zxx,your should help you a great deal with parts as well as your learning curve.i learned to fly on the shuttle and flew them for
four year before going with the robbe magic,and i still have that.

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02-16-2003 06:54 AM  15 years agoPost 10
G.Man

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Wyd, if you can build a car with nice free steering and no slop, just do the same with a Heli, and you will have no problems...

I used to race 1/8th and 1/5th scale cars and in some ways they are more of a pain to get the setup right...

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02-16-2003 01:48 PM  15 years agoPost 11
Kinger

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Galifrey - I'm a friend of WYD's and believe me this guy can put together a car kit. He's a perfectionist when it comes to that kind of stuff and that's no lie. The tough part here is convincing him that helicopters is a great hobby to get into. Just kidding WYD.......still keeping my fingers crossed that you'll pull the trigger and be hovering by springtime.

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02-16-2003 02:30 PM  15 years agoPost 12
digidoc100

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If you have a couple extra bucks for the upfront cost I would suggest the Sceadu 30. If I could do it over that's what I would have bought rather than my Shuttle Plus. I was comparing crash costs at my LHS and it really doesn't appear the Sceadu is more expensive to fix. Expect to spend a couple hundred more on the Sceadu initially though. It's a much higher quality kit in my opinion and worth the extra $$.

-Chris

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02-16-2003 07:22 PM  15 years agoPost 13
Scooterpilot

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In my humble opinion: Hirobo makes a very good product. If you get a Sceadu 30 to learn with then you can upgrade to a 50 without having to buy a new kit. If you plan on this as a hobby a Sceadu it a great way to start. The cost it a little more up front but it's a great heli. I own a Hirobo heli and it beat my other one's hands down.

Also, if you do enter the hobby and your budget allows you, buy a good radio. One that will grow with you as your flying skills grow. This way you won't have to upgrade.

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02-16-2003 08:06 PM  15 years agoPost 14
G.Man

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Having seen a sceadu and a shuttle side by side, the sceadu is a much nicer product than a basic shuttle plus...

I have spent a lot on my shuttle plus to get it to perform well, so if the sceadu is as good as it looks then I would go for that...

The shuttle plus will drive you nuts if you are a perfectionist like me...

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02-17-2003 03:00 AM  15 years agoPost 15
FUBAR

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Hirobo is a good choice. I've been flying for a year now and I have made a few mistakes. The first being choosing a 30 size machine. In december I bought a Sceadu 50 and I have advanced 10 fold in the last few months than I did in the prior 9. I have just about every upgrade available for the Z and just doesn't handle the way a bone stock Sceadu does. Don't get me wrong the Z is a great machine and you will learn on it, but if you can sqeeze a few more dollars out of your pocket go for the Sceadu 50 then thank me a year from now. The truth is this is a very addicting hobby so spend a little more money now and get it over with or spend a lot over the next few years and wish you had done it in the begining.


FUBAR

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02-17-2003 03:46 PM  15 years agoPost 16
Ralph

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Shuttlle ZXX
If you decide you want to sign up to this heli stuff and want to go with a Shuttle, get a ZXX. I have flown them for 6 yrs and have nothing but good things to say about them. They are really smooth and can be setup for aeros-3D. Althought this is an older design, It is a great one and all the parts have been tried and proven. There is only one upgrade that is necessary for the ZXX and that is to replace the few Z bends with ball links, which will cost you minimal. Although for the hovering stages they work fine.

The muffler that comes with the heli will work fine thru foward flight manuevers. When you want to get into aerobatics install a Weston tuned pipe. They are inexpensive-$52, real durable, and are designed to run on 15%. They boost the power by about 15%. Great power!!! The other thing you will want to change at this point is the flybar paddles. Replace the stock ones with the KSJ 3D paddles. They really make the heli come to life.

Like the other guys have stated, setup is very important. If the heli is not setup properly it will really hinder you learning curve. Have a veteran pilot give it a once over.

If it is setup properly you should be hovering tail in successfully in one afternoon of practice.

Opinions on other helis - I have never owned a Raptor or Sceadu, but I have friends who do. The Raptor-original is a inexpersive machine and flys fairly well after you invest some money in upgrades. I can't speak for the V2. If you really believe you are going to stick with the hobby you might want to consider a sceadu 50. Its a real performer and is slightly cheaper than a 60size, but if you are considering the sceadu 30 it is a little on the heavy side. Although, as the other guys have stated it can be upgraded to a 50, but if that is what you want to do just by the 50. It will be cheaper in the end.

Don't forget to consider a simulator. In the end it will save you time and money. Especially when you are practicing aeros and 3D.

I hope this helps,

Good Luck

Ralph
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