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08-03-2007 05:29 PM  13 years ago
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raptormandan

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starting raptor 50 titan
so i do the usual and all i get is a puddle of fuel under the heli...im new so i need help... why do they do that....or am i doing it wrong....how do you start this thing......help.....rmd
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08-03-2007 05:54 PM  13 years ago
helical

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Not being mean but you need to put the heli away and get yourself educated before you attempt to start it. You could potentially put yourself in a dangerous situation. Read the forums, buy a heli-related book, DVD, etc.
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08-03-2007 06:43 PM  13 years ago
BarracudaHockey

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You really should find qualified help, even if you have to drive some distance it will be worth it just to get the helicopter looked over.

The you need to either break the fuel line at a fuel filter and fill directly into the tank or use one of the many available inline clamps while you are fueling into a T connector.

Whats happening is your flooding your engine.

The end result will be a hydrolocked engine, a fan spun off the shaft and jammed into the clutch bell or a broken rod depending on how much beef your starter has.
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08-03-2007 06:50 PM  13 years ago
Eartaker

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your are using a glow plug heater right? lol
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08-03-2007 07:47 PM  13 years ago
legoman67

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HAVE YOU SET THE NEEDLES???? if not please do a search on here about setting needles, it will depend on the engine, if so then read what i have below.

ALSO I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND HAVING SOMEONE THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO START YOUR HELI FOR THE FIRST TIME AND SHOW YOU HOW, THEN WATCH YOU DO IT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE SAFE.

you need 3 things to start a heli glow driver(or heater), starter, fuel, when you pump the fuel in you should either pump direct into the tank(by removing the hose off the carb, and fill through that) or using a t filter and clamping the line to the carb, if you fill through a t and dont plug the line to the carb, or any other method were the line from the gas tank to carb is connected(I.E through muffler pressure hose) you WILL flood the engine and nitro will leak out the backplate. Then you need to have a kill switch setup on your radio or have someone else ready to pull the fuel line(always a good idea especially when starting a heli for the first time) then put the glow driver on the glow plug, grip the blade grips firmly and with the other hand use the starter in the shaft. once it starts remove the starter, and then the glow driver. never let your other hand off the blade grip, or the blade will pick up rpm and could hurt you or someone else and damage the heli. Once you have the heli running pick it up by the blade grip and hold to you side so the tail will try to swign into your body... grab the tx with other hand being carful NOT to touch and of the controls, and walk out to the feild, set the heli down tail in to where you will be standing and step away quickly or the blades will hit your leg.
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08-03-2007 09:29 PM  13 years ago
Raffy

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Watch out!, your throttle servo direction might be reversed. If it start at full open throttle those blades will whack you.
Seek help at the field not here.
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08-03-2007 09:38 PM  13 years ago
BarracudaHockey

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If you start at full throttle, and get whacked by the blades, its your own fault.

You should ALWAYS have a good grip on the head while starting a helicopter. It may want to yank and bank you but if you hang on the only damage will be a burnt clutch.
Andy
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08-03-2007 10:51 PM  13 years ago
garaptor

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On the Raptor look at the linkage on the engine and work the throttle. Idle throttle is toward the front of the heli. But to the original issue, clamp off the fuel line to the carb while refueling or fuel will flow into and flood the engine. Here is an example of a widely used type line clamp for a few dollars. http://www.helihobby.com/html/fuel_pumps.html scroll down to "fuel shutoff clamp"
Also check out Michael Prewitts site at http://www.raptortechnique.com/
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08-03-2007 11:44 PM  13 years ago
Drew7601

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agreed with barracudahocky!!check out raptortechnique for some info on starting it. i know thay can be pretty intimadating at first but learn how to start it properly than it will be like second natureLoving life! Flying helis.
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08-04-2007 04:01 AM  13 years ago
DarkSideSimba

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If you start at full throttle, and get whacked by the blades, its your own fault.
LMAO Barra!!!!

Haaaaa... Yeah but the 1st time is priceless!!!!! Dont care who you are, will be something to look back on ans laugh about..

DSS
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08-04-2007 10:28 AM  13 years ago
raptormandan

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wow
seems like alot informative folks on this subject....i found out it was just a dead nicad,,,,,,heli started fine,,,
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08-04-2007 02:52 PM  13 years ago
Eartaker

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NiCid on a nitro Heli? the battery for the glow plug heater im guessing right? im sure no one hear meant to come off as a dick head, it just when you see someone asking "hey how do i start this thing", its kind of like saying I want to program my own PC game but ummm how do i turn on the computer.
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08-04-2007 06:03 PM  13 years ago
DarkSideSimba

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Whos the Dick Head here?? All we are conerned with is your safety. If you have a Titian as you stated and have READ the manual from cover to cover and set the heli up as such the manual says to then you would not be asking the question you did. If you are trying to start you heli and you are pissin fuel you are wide open. And will get smack by your blades if and when that heli fires up. Dependeding on your motor size that smack could brake or bruise a few of your ribs, or other body parts. But yes for me it was my ribs, and yes I do laugh about it now lookin back on it. Trying to hold that rotor head and reach for the TX for dear life. I dont care what forum you goto and ask that (same) question you will get the same responses you got here.

DSS
Evolution.. Times Have Changed.. Has Your Heli??? Sceadu Evo.. Tomorrows Heli.. Todays Evolution
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08-04-2007 06:09 PM  13 years ago
legoman67

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if you had come on and said something like, "my heli is not starting, mototrs turning, glow plug works, etc etc, it just start and ran fine yesterday. " then we would know your not someone who has just bought a heli out on a limb and know wants to pick it up and fly. but you just said, "how do i start my 50 titan" so everyone assumed you had no clue what you were doing and were trying to protect you and your heli.

also eartaker, whats wrong with a nicad on a nitro? ALOT of people do that. Regulated nitros only started when electric helis and the bigger batterys came around at an affordable price.
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08-04-2007 10:46 PM  13 years ago
garaptor

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I think Raptorman wasnt very clear in his request for help,but what I saw was "so i do the usual" so I figured he had already flown the thing before and had a flooded engine. You gotta admit heli guys are hardheaded and a lot of smartass replys between the veterans, that a newcomer might think were directed at him, are actually not meant to be but sound like it, and is just the way ya'll talk.I was offended several times too when I first found RR before I figured it out.. d..cks! Lol . Raptorman,come back and try again when you need help.
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08-04-2007 11:03 PM  13 years ago
raptormandan

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its cool
i should have been a little more clear on my problem.....flew today and it was beautiful.....the heli started right up.....yep i start it in thr hold posistion.what a great flyin heli.....sorry about the dickhead statement...i was a little buzzed last night when i saw the responses to my question .. if i offended anyone my apologies....this is a great forum .......

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08-05-2007 12:03 AM  13 years ago
Camp

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Threads like this renew my confidence in that the people here are genuine enthusiasts who are willing to help...anyone.
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08-05-2007 04:05 PM  13 years ago
Eartaker

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Nice picture, looks very stable. SOON I will be there (Stable with no training gear lol)
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