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08-05-2007 04:35 AM  13 years ago
baddynergy

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raptortechniques guide for pitch and throttle curve is great. You should go there and look at his method. I was using it for quite a while and never had an overspeeding issue. But now I use a gov, but still fly on curves just to see how much it difference really makes.**Unattended children will be givin a shot of espresso and a puppy**
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08-05-2007 01:11 PM  13 years ago
JMF

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I got really profficient at setting up my pitch and throttle curves. My heli's fly smooth as a baby's petunia without a governor. SO I will never fly with one unless someone hooks it for me and says, "Try This". Then I will. But I do not see this happening.
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08-05-2007 05:35 PM  13 years ago
MJWS

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Curves with mixes work fine. There are lots of moves that they can't address and you will get overspeeding on. Pretty much anything involving pushing a descent or quick loading and unloading of the head.

They don't give you more power unless you were clueless on your curves. They certainly aren't a 'need' but it is kind of like flying a good gyro, once you've tried it you wonder why you didn't do it sooner.

Mike
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08-06-2007 04:04 AM  13 years ago
JMF

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ok ok, so what is the best of the cheapest governor or other thingy I can try. Easy to set up to on a rex 600N
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08-06-2007 09:54 AM  13 years ago
Ringo Ranger

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trottle curve...
do the math, it workz

without a gov.

be resourceful.

ringo
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08-06-2007 02:43 PM  13 years ago
Ozydego

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I still have not been able to maiden the darn thing, weather sucked yesterday, I did go thru my 9303 manual and I set up throttle-cyclic mixing... with all the features of my radio, curves look promising.... will keep you posted....But Honey, I can't live with just stock.....
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08-06-2007 05:57 PM  13 years ago
MJWS

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JMF,

Pretty much all the modern gov/limiters work well. RevMax may be the cheapest and doesn't need a super servo. Multigov and ATG are excellent as well. Can't really go wrong.

Mike
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08-06-2007 08:36 PM  13 years ago
JAGNZ

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After using a governor for the first time, I never looked back. And yes, I was taught how to setup proper curves way back when too. And when I need to breakin an engine or track down a fault I still turn my gov off and run straight curves. For around a $100 I will never own a heli without a gov again. It just makes life much simpler, just like a good HH Gyro. I am in this to have fun, not spend my time fiddling with my curves to get them just right.
Jason Greenwood

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11-21-2007 06:27 PM  12 years ago
hawkkw

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New to me
I'm a noob where nitro's are concerned but really want a 600n.
My question is, if I step up to a nitro and want to use a gov.,
won't I have to get another radio as well? I've got a DX7 but
the GV-1 for instance requires 8 channels per the manual. Any
way around that issue?
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11-21-2007 06:42 PM  12 years ago
michael88997

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the way around that is get a multigov... takes about 20 min to setup and then your done... later you can use the advanced options to make it even better
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11-21-2007 06:43 PM  12 years ago
Zaneman007

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I didn't use a gov until I started doing 3D.

Thats not to say you need a gov, but.....

You do have to have a good understanding of the throttle curve. And "Rays authoritative bla bla bla" shows how to add some mix in to smooth it all out.

In a perfect world, you would learn to set you throttle curve and mixes to get a smooth flying heli. I've seen a couple(two) guys at fun flys who didn't use a gov, and had a pretty constant head speed. They definatly had some well learned skills.

For me, gov all the way.
Old Guys Rule!
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11-21-2007 06:47 PM  12 years ago
n808

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If you fly electrics well, I would recommend a governor, but being new to nitros you should probably learn to tune and break in the engine without a governor involved.

Another vote for the MultiGov. Works great with 7 channels -- allows you to choose RPM, gov enabled or disabled, Full Gov or Limiter for each flight mode.
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11-21-2007 07:09 PM  12 years ago
WJackson

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There are many ways to setup the GV1 with the DX7, and all are very easy. That being said I use Aerospires multi gov and have been nothing but happy and would reccomend it over the GV1 for price and the fact you dont fly the programmer (less to break,and less weight )Now that being said, I have recently went back to curves while my two MultiGovs are being replaced with the new 2.0 version. Curves are ok, but I personally still end up with some overspeed especially manuevers that are turning up wind and collective has to be dropped due to dynamic lift. Sooooooo long story short, best hundred bucks I've spent to simplify "heli life"!

Oh ---- BTW ---- What he said tune engine without gov enabled. It can mask a bad mixture and burn a motor out quickly.
RIP Roman
Bill Jackson
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11-21-2007 08:02 PM  12 years ago
Ken Filloon

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Is there any way to combat overspeeding without using a governor??
You could use the Revmax limiter and still fly your curves.
It also has an onboard pot to set RPM limit so you do not need an extra channel from the receiver.
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11-21-2007 08:23 PM  12 years ago
JAGNZ

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MultiGov - Limiter or Governor mode and the LCD Programmer makes it oh so easy to setup....
Jason Greenwood

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11-21-2007 08:40 PM  12 years ago
WJackson

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I remember two years ago preachin' that the multigov was the best thing since sliced bread, and 2000 head speed was insane!! RIP Roman
Bill Jackson
AlignUSA
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11-21-2007 08:44 PM  12 years ago
JAGNZ

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2000+ seems to be the norm now.
Jason Greenwood

www.3dheli.co.nz
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11-21-2007 10:39 PM  12 years ago
Bond007

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IMO it's good practise to set up your throttle curves before using a governor. Pretty much what's been said above. A governor can mask a bad engine set up.

If your gonna go the governor route get a rev limiter version ie TJ revmax.
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11-21-2007 11:50 PM  12 years ago
RonHill

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Like Bond said it is a good idea to set up curves before you slap on a GOV....Or as we say "elect the Gov".

To get a good tune, I don't run the Gov...For break in on a new motor, I don't run the Gov. Once the motor is tuned and broken in..I set the Gov and go fly.

They are pretty cheep, around 100 bucks. And once you are doing 3D it makes a world of difference.

But for normal sport flying...I am not sure I would bother.
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11-22-2007 12:55 AM  12 years ago
lovespicyfood

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I plan on putting a Multigov on 600N Pro w/ a DX7.

I've heard that you should "disable" or not use a governor while breaking in the motor.

Can someone explain the logic behind this? I'm guessing so that you're not running your engine full bore from the get go, but I'm unsure. I'm coming from electrics.

How many tanks should I run through it before I can enable the multi gov?

I was kind of holding out for a YS .50, but since they seem hard to find and OS is a bit cheaper and more popular, I'm probably going that route.

I'll be getting the Align pipe too!

Thanks!
Pete
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